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QB Play In 2014 - Better or Worse Than 2011?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:34 am
What is your current thought on the situation? Will the QB play be better in 2014 than it was in 2011?
In 2011, you had two seniors, Lee and Jefferson. Both had extensive experience. Both played well at times and both played horrible at times. Neither had a true mentor of an offensive coordinator and QB coach.
In 2014, you have a true freshman and a true sophomore. Neither has any real experience to speak of (excluding one start by Jennings on a rain soaked field and a last minute miracle against Arkansas). Both enjoy the benefit of having an elite offensive coordinator and QB coach in Cam Cameron.
Will this year be better or worse than 2011 from an QB production and reliability standpoint?
In 2011, you had two seniors, Lee and Jefferson. Both had extensive experience. Both played well at times and both played horrible at times. Neither had a true mentor of an offensive coordinator and QB coach.
In 2014, you have a true freshman and a true sophomore. Neither has any real experience to speak of (excluding one start by Jennings on a rain soaked field and a last minute miracle against Arkansas). Both enjoy the benefit of having an elite offensive coordinator and QB coach in Cam Cameron.
Will this year be better or worse than 2011 from an QB production and reliability standpoint?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:35 am to DeltaDoc
Pure speculation but I going with better on Cam's presence alone.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:35 am to DeltaDoc
Worse early
Better late
Lee was extremely efficient until the GOTC. After that the QB play deteriorated noticeably. This year the QBs will take their lumps early but improve as the season goes.
Better late
Lee was extremely efficient until the GOTC. After that the QB play deteriorated noticeably. This year the QBs will take their lumps early but improve as the season goes.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:36 am to DeltaDoc
better
we have more talent at QB and a better offensive coaching staff now than in 2011
we have more talent at QB and a better offensive coaching staff now than in 2011
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:37 am to DeltaDoc
We were leading the SEC in passing efficiency under Lee. It's going to be worse outside of the Georgia and bama games
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:37 am to DeltaDoc
2011 was pretty good until Arkansas.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:37 am to DeltaDoc
We were leading the SEC in passing efficiency under Lee. It's going to be worse outside of the Georgia and bama games
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:38 am to DeltaDoc
Better.
Harris and Jennings are both better physically, and mentally than Lee and JJ.
Harris and Jennings are both better physically, and mentally than Lee and JJ.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:52 am to DeltaDoc
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Lee and Jefferson. Both had extensive experience. Both played well at times and both played horrible at times
Jarrett Lee led the SEC in efficiency and had the longest streak for a LSU qb without a pick.
Why the need to make his play as awful as JJs play during that season is really odd to me.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:53 am to DeltaDoc
more talented and better coached
so, better, I hope
so, better, I hope
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:58 am to DeltaDoc
Tough one.
JLee played almost spotless ball until the gump game. JJ then joined the fray so together they led us to 13-0. It'll be tough to top that.
Pretty certain the 2014 guys put up better stats though without reaching that win total.
Guess it ultimately depends on whether you're judging W-L, or statistics. So I'll go with worse since W-L is more important imo.
JLee played almost spotless ball until the gump game. JJ then joined the fray so together they led us to 13-0. It'll be tough to top that.
Pretty certain the 2014 guys put up better stats though without reaching that win total.
Guess it ultimately depends on whether you're judging W-L, or statistics. So I'll go with worse since W-L is more important imo.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:01 am to DeltaDoc
Lee was very efficient until Jefferson came back and started splitting time. So I say worse for regular season. The 2 post season game were the worst I've ever witnessed a QB play though. It was like watching an injured deer try to swim.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:03 am to DeltaDoc
It will be better. The difference between Stud and Cam is daylight and dark. Sadly, the surrounding pieces (mainly the defense) are nowhere remotely close to 2011.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:04 am to DeltaDoc
Worse
QB play was actually pretty solid in 2011 sans the SECCG and when we played Bama
QB play was actually pretty solid in 2011 sans the SECCG and when we played Bama
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:22 am to DeltaDoc
People really sleep on how well Lee played that year. Outside of the Bama game, the guy was ridiculously efficient.
In his first 8 games that year:
63.2% completion
1250 yards
8.1 yards/attempt
13 TDs
1 INT
157.4 Passer Rating
If we get anywhere near that from either of Harris or Jennigs, I'll be shocked. It could happen, but I just don't see it as likely.
In his first 8 games that year:
63.2% completion
1250 yards
8.1 yards/attempt
13 TDs
1 INT
157.4 Passer Rating
If we get anywhere near that from either of Harris or Jennigs, I'll be shocked. It could happen, but I just don't see it as likely.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:41 am to DeltaDoc
I'd say worse at the moment, as there's no way that two QBs with near-zero game experience are better at this point than two seniors.
May not be the case at the "back end" of the season, as Les likes to say, but that remains to be seen.
May not be the case at the "back end" of the season, as Les likes to say, but that remains to be seen.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:43 am to DeltaDoc
this will be Lee circa 2008 bad to begin with. think they will show improvement as the season goes on but its going to be rough going to Aub and Florida on the road. that it is too much to ask. you are going to have to score lots of points to beat Auburn no matter how good your D is.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:56 pm to DeltaDoc
Less experience at the skilz but huge upswing in play-callers with a slightly better OL. This spells run, run, and run some more with timely play-actions and roll-out passes. Coupled with the above, I believe the QB's can be more effective overall, as both QB's appear to be effective runners as well.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:34 pm to DeltaDoc
quote:Worse. I don't think we have the disasters that SECCG and NCG were but overall the performance may be lacking. Last year's bowl game was particularly shaky and from what little I have seen of Harris (admittedly from video clips here and there) his accuracy isn't something that belongs in a D-1 game yet.
QB Play In 2014 - Better or Worse Than 2011?
I am hopeful that it can be managed with excellent running and defense like the Oregon game in 2011 when Lee was making an emergency start on short notice.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:35 pm to DeltaDoc
The QB play for the first 8 games was very good in 2011. Very efficient TD/Int ratio and overall good stats.
I think by the end of this year, we are going to regret not holding onto the QB's we lost last year.
I think by the end of this year, we are going to regret not holding onto the QB's we lost last year.
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