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Robert Reich delivers lecture on greed while earning $240K for one class
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:39 am
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:47 am to Quidam65
Libs are the worse hypocrites but all politicians or former ones view themselves as exempt from the standards they want implemented on us.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:50 am to Quidam65
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Robert Reich delivers lecture on greed while earning $240K for one class
Well, if you're gonna lecture on something, might as well have some firsthand knowledge of your subject.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:47 am to Quidam65
It's always remarkable to me how people can be so hypocritical and not see it. Surely Reich is a smart guy. How does he rationalize this?
I'm all for the free market and if $240k for teaching one class is the 'market rate,' great, but as the article stated:
Indeed.
I'm all for the free market and if $240k for teaching one class is the 'market rate,' great, but as the article stated:
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But a professor who earns a one-percenter's income for a relatively easy workload has a tough time complaining about how unfair the economy is
Indeed.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:18 am to Quidam65
Same way I feel about Dave Ramsey.
"Save all the money you can!!!!
But only after spending $200 for my program."
"Save all the money you can!!!!
But only after spending $200 for my program."
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:22 am to Dale Murphy
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Same way I feel about Dave Ramsey.
"Save all the money you can!!!!
But only after spending $200 for my program."
To be fair he gives away a lot of his FPU classes for free.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:30 am to Clete Purcel
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But a professor who earns a one-percenter's income for a relatively easy workload has a tough time complaining about how unfair the economy is
Indeed.
I don't see why this is the case. If only people in a certain situation can complain about that situation, then how exactly are we going to make society better?
This would mean...
* Only prisoners could complain about our criminal justice system
* Only children could complain about our education system, even limiting to just parents causes problems
* Only gays can comment on gay marriage
We are in this together if you like or not, we should be free to have an opinion and voice that opinion on any subject.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:42 am to Hawkeye95
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I don't see why this is the case. If only people in a certain situation can complain about that situation, then how exactly are we going to make society better?
He's adding to the cost of one of the best vehicles out of poverty- higher education. Obviously he is (and should be) allowed to complain all he likes, but he is part of the problem and seems quite comfortable with it.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:50 am to Quidam65
Don't do as I do, do as I say do.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:51 am to Hawkeye95
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This would mean...
* Only prisoners could complain about our criminal justice system
* Only children could complain about our education system, even limiting to just parents causes problems
* Only gays can comment on gay marriage
We are in this together if you like or not, we should be free to have an opinion and voice that opinion on any subject.
If I had a nickel for every time I heard a libtard say men should not be allowed to comment on abortion, I'd be as rich as Robert Reich. (The HYPOCRITE, Robert Reich)
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:49 am to Quidam65
Well, in all fairness, if I were only 4 feet tall I'd be obsessed with life's inequalities.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:56 am to Quidam65
Like Robert Redford sueing NY State over attempt to collect taxes on the sell of his network.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:17 pm to Quidam65
So what's the solution to this issue then? I don't say that sarcastically; honestly, what should be done?
If your answer is to say that wealth inequality isn't an issue, I guess we'd be an impasse. But I personally believe that Reich, et al, have shown a pretty strong correlation between wealth inequality and major economic issues, both qualitatively and quantitatively, though I personally believe it will be much more of an issue going forward than it is now. I found Reich’s documentary on the subject to be pretty compelling, although parts of it were a little too heavy handed.
Moreover, there seems to be a pretty strong cultural divide happening, with both sides becoming more rhetorical and divisive. I hate that the issue can’t be discussed without those on the right having a knee-jerk “JEALOUSY! CLASS WARFARE!” response, and those on the left having a “CORPORATE INTERESTS! 1% GREED!” response. It’s dumb.
Regardless, I’m not sure what the end result should be, but I do see it becoming more of a problem for a multitude of reasons. I agree to an extent that Reich’s personal wealth/earnings can certainly elicit a smirk when held up next to his message. But this same “oh yeah, well look at what he makes” argument is made whenever anybody with money argues for more progressive economic reforms. It was also used when Buffet talked about tax rates, etc. But to me, it’s a bit of an ad hominem. Sure, it’s hypocritical. But that doesn't detract from the message itself.
Anyways, I’m not proposing any solutions or anything here, just rambling and musing a bit.
**Edited to make it clear that I see this more of a forward looking issue than a current issue.
If your answer is to say that wealth inequality isn't an issue, I guess we'd be an impasse. But I personally believe that Reich, et al, have shown a pretty strong correlation between wealth inequality and major economic issues, both qualitatively and quantitatively, though I personally believe it will be much more of an issue going forward than it is now. I found Reich’s documentary on the subject to be pretty compelling, although parts of it were a little too heavy handed.
Moreover, there seems to be a pretty strong cultural divide happening, with both sides becoming more rhetorical and divisive. I hate that the issue can’t be discussed without those on the right having a knee-jerk “JEALOUSY! CLASS WARFARE!” response, and those on the left having a “CORPORATE INTERESTS! 1% GREED!” response. It’s dumb.
Regardless, I’m not sure what the end result should be, but I do see it becoming more of a problem for a multitude of reasons. I agree to an extent that Reich’s personal wealth/earnings can certainly elicit a smirk when held up next to his message. But this same “oh yeah, well look at what he makes” argument is made whenever anybody with money argues for more progressive economic reforms. It was also used when Buffet talked about tax rates, etc. But to me, it’s a bit of an ad hominem. Sure, it’s hypocritical. But that doesn't detract from the message itself.
Anyways, I’m not proposing any solutions or anything here, just rambling and musing a bit.
**Edited to make it clear that I see this more of a forward looking issue than a current issue.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:23 pm to Strophie
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If your answer is to say that wealth inequality isn't an issue, I guess we'd be an impasse
Mobility is more important an issue for me.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:24 pm to Strophie
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I agree to an extent that Reich’s personal wealth/earnings can certainly elicit a smirk when held up next to his message.
It's a bit more than that. His earnings to a small extent feed the inflated and still-inflating costs of the best way to overcome income & wealth inequality.
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But to me, it’s a bit of an ad hominem.
Admittedly. It says nothing of the quality of his argument itself.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:26 pm to BigJim
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Mobility is more important an issue for me
Same here, although I'm not even sure that mobility is the end-all be-all measure of opportunity. Not that I necessarily have another one in mind
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:27 pm to Strophie
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So what's the solution to this issue then? I don't say that sarcastically; honestly, what should be done?
If your answer is to say that wealth inequality isn't an issue, I guess we'd be an impasse. But I personally believe that Reich, et al, have shown a pretty strong correlation between wealth inequality and major economic issues, both qualitatively and quantitatively. I found Reich’s documentary on the subject to be pretty compelling, although parts of it were a little too heavy handed.
Moreover, there seems to be a pretty strong cultural divide happening, with both sides becoming more rhetorical and divisive. I hate that the issue can’t be discussed without those on the right having a knee-jerk “JEALOUSY! CLASS WARFARE!” response, and those on the left having a “CORPORATE INTERESTS! 1% GREED!” response. It’s dumb.
Regardless, I’m not sure what the end result should be, but I do see it becoming more of a problem for a multitude of reasons. I agree to an extent that Reich’s personal wealth/earnings can certainly elicit a smirk when held up next to his message. But this same “oh yeah, well look at what he makes” argument is made whenever anybody with money argues for more progressive economic reforms. It was also used when Buffet talked about tax rates, etc. But to me, it’s a bit of an ad hominem. Sure, it’s hypocritical. But that doesn't detract from the message itself.
Anyways, I’m not proposing any solutions or anything here, just rambling and musing a bit.
Just keeping pace with Strophie's post count.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:28 pm to 90proofprofessional
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It's a bit more than that. His earnings to a small extent feed the inflated and still-inflating costs of the best way to overcome income & wealth inequality.
Agreed, actually. And that's an interesting take - his earnings in his particular position do seem problematic given that said earnings are then directly responsible, in some small way, for causing one of the issues he harps on; that being the rising costs of higher education.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:29 pm to Hawkeye95
BS.
I am sure he negotiated the 240k contract for 1 class.
Taking less money wouldn't have somehow lost him the job.
Yes, it is hypocritical to take a 240k job for 1 class and then go off on greed.
Only a moron can't see this and your examples don't even remotely fit this situation at all.
I am sure he negotiated the 240k contract for 1 class.
Taking less money wouldn't have somehow lost him the job.
Yes, it is hypocritical to take a 240k job for 1 class and then go off on greed.
Only a moron can't see this and your examples don't even remotely fit this situation at all.
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