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re: The Greatest Baseball Player of the Modern Era
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:24 pm to Baloo
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:24 pm to Baloo
quote:
It was not banned by baseball. Steroids and HGH were not banned
Really?You sure about that?Per Fay Vincents memorandum to all teams in 1990
"The possesion,sale or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance by MLB players and personnel is strickly prohibited.
Those involved are subject to discipline from the commisioner or expulsion from the game"
"The prohibition applies to all illegal drugs and controlled substances including STEROIDS and perscription drugs for which the individual does not have a prescription"
Pretty clear to anybody that reads.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:30 pm to RD Dawg
Bonds
I couldn't match his stats playing on the easiest level of a video game.
I couldn't match his stats playing on the easiest level of a video game.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:32 pm to The Seaward
My vote is for b bonds.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:36 am to craigbiggio
Half of Bonds career can be thrown out. If he was such a great player why the cheating?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:38 am to Hoyt
Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time any other answer is simply wrong
Posted on 8/1/14 at 1:42 am to Hoyt
Greatest player of the modern era? Bonds.
Greatest player of all time? Bonds.
Greatest player of all time? Bonds.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 6:20 am to VerlanderBEAST
Bonds was chemical freak who doesn't touch Aaron without the roids. More than likely a HOF w/out roids but far from the GOAT
status.
Ruth was one of the premeir LH pitchers in the AL when he started and then dominated the game from the plate after the switch.
Aaron and Mays were both better than Bonds in the outfield BTW
status.
Ruth was one of the premeir LH pitchers in the AL when he started and then dominated the game from the plate after the switch.
Aaron and Mays were both better than Bonds in the outfield BTW
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 8:22 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:00 am to RD Dawg
The problem with Bonds is he basically had two distinct versions of himself as a player.
Pre-Roids - best all around player in the MLB. Could run, play defense, had power, could hit for average...aka Willie Mays.
Post-Roids - a completely different player. No speed. No defense...but had some of the best hitting seasons of all time...aka Ruth.
That makes him hard to judge IMO.
Pre-Roids - best all around player in the MLB. Could run, play defense, had power, could hit for average...aka Willie Mays.
Post-Roids - a completely different player. No speed. No defense...but had some of the best hitting seasons of all time...aka Ruth.
That makes him hard to judge IMO.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:24 am to Hoyt
Anyone think it may be a pitcher?
They are in fewer games, but have a tremendous impact on the games that they are in.
They are in fewer games, but have a tremendous impact on the games that they are in.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:10 am to RD Dawg
quote:Let me break this down slowly for you:
You really can't be that cluesless...HTF does alcohol enhance your play?
poster said:
quote:So i pointed out Ruth drank alcohol which was banned during prohibition along with all other illegal substances. So he is a cheater, end of story.
Its cheating if you take a banned substance(s). End of story
quote:"The argument hits a serious roadblock, however, when it is applied retroactively. Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and countless others have admitted they used amphetamines during their careers. " LINK
Exactly who was doing it? You gotta linc about Aaron doing amphetamines like "skittles"?
I think this is where i say BOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:35 am to SabiDojo
I think a fair case can be made for Bonds or Ruth as the GOAT. I accept them both as 1a and 1b because so much changed between the time they played. However, they both put up numbers that were so good they failed to make sense.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:28 am to RD Dawg
quote:3x MVP and robbed of at least 1 more. Bonds pre roids shits on Hank Aaron.
Bonds was chemical freak who doesn't touch Aaron without the roids. More than likely a HOF w/out roids but far from the GOAT
status.
Aaron who was a true Mr Consistent but never came close to the heights reached by Mantle Bench Mays Musial Williams Banks etc
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:37 am to FightinTigersDammit
Barry Bonds before and after the roids...
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:44 am to lsupride87
I'm asking you?Are you REALLY are putting alchohol and steroids in the same caetgory? Don't care what you were responfing to.
Once again,just yes or no?
A link to a TJ Quinn Op Ed piece?WTF?
Thats your BOOM moment? Are you on meds?or just
like 15?
You said they were eating amphetamines like "skittles"
Where is that article?
Aarom admitted to trying them once and they "almost gave him a heart attack"
Do amphetamines make your entire body change and transform your career? Not even close..
:rotflmao:
Once again,just yes or no?
A link to a TJ Quinn Op Ed piece?WTF?
Thats your BOOM moment? Are you on meds?or just
like 15?
You said they were eating amphetamines like "skittles"
Where is that article?
Aarom admitted to trying them once and they "almost gave him a heart attack"
Do amphetamines make your entire body change and transform your career? Not even close..
:rotflmao:
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:54 am to RD Dawg
quote:They were taking illegal amphetamines to gain an advantage over their opposition. That is no different then what Bonds did. I am sorry you are simple minded
You said they were eating amphetamines like "skittles"
Where is that article?
Aarom admitted to trying them once and they "almost gave him a heart attack"
Do amphetamines make your entire body change and transform your career? Not even close..
ETA: "One of the greatest players of all time, Willie Mays, had a liquid form of an amphetamine in his locker during his days with New York's most beloved team, the New York Mets.
Teammate John Milner said that amphetamines were so pervasive during his era that when he went into the clubhouse, there were "greenies" waiting for him in his locker."
So yes, they did take them like skittles
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:32 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:
Anyone think it may be a pitcher?
They are in fewer games, but have a tremendous impact on the games that they are in.
Yeah. That's why Ruth is the GOAT. He was utterly dominant at both.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:36 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
Aaron who was a true Mr Consistent but never came close to the heights reached by Mantle Bench Mays Musial Williams Banks etc
You could pretty much count on Aaron hitting .300 with 40 homers and 100plus RBIs and runs scored. Plus, he won a batting title. Not a lot of guys were hitting 50 homers in Aaron's time. Mantle and Mays, a couple of times each, and Maris. That's about it.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:38 am to theunknownknight
quote:
Yeah. That's why Ruth is the GOAT. He was utterly dominant at both.
I think I made this point on page 1, and its been utterly ignored.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:38 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
I think a fair case can be made for Bonds or Ruth as the GOAT. I accept them both as 1a and 1b because so much changed between the time they played. However, they both put up numbers that were so good they failed to make sense.
If you would transport mid-90's Bonds back into the 20's with a time machine would he put up the same numbers as Ruth? Of course. He would prlly demolish Ruth's numbers because he is an all around superior player in every facet of the game. Now, if you take Ruth out of the 20's and put him against modern pitching, would he put up the same numbers. No fricking way.
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