re: The Greatest Baseball Player of the Modern Era

You have to wonder though if Griffey's injury riddled stint with the Reds that pretty much neutralized him from the game in the early 2000s will affect him when it comes to the HOF

And he still isn't Barry

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You have to wonder though if Griffey's injury riddled stint with the Reds that pretty much neutralized him from the game in the early 2000s will affect him when it comes to the HOF

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No, he's still going to get in easily.

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Barry Bonds

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Bonds was just great, power, speed, defense... Literally there was nothing he couldn't do on the baseball field

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And yet he traded all that to become a fat unathletic slob who could hit homers.

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Bonds

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Too bad he decided to cheat and tarnish his legacy

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His career BA would still be way below Mays

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Mays hit .302... Griffey could have definitely gotten close to this anyway.

Who hit .362 at 38 and stole double digit bases at 36


Of course you wouldn't know anyway based on your previous post

via deadspin:

—Bonds drew 688 intentional walks in his career. There are 49 Hall of Fame position players who drew fewer walks of any kind in their entire careers.

—If Bonds had retired after the 1998 season, he would have done so with 99.6 career rWAR. This would rank him No. 32 all-time.

—If Bonds had retired after his age-27 season rather than signing with the San Francisco Giants, he would have done so with 50.1 career rWAR, more than 42 Hall of Fame position players.

—Bonds had a career line of .393/.967/1.054 on 3-0 counts.

—Bonds was once intentionally walked with the bases loaded.

—Bonds was intentionally walked with the bases empty 41 times.

—In the 2002 postseason, Bonds hit .356/.581/.978 with eight home runs in 17 games.

—Between 2002 and 2004, Bonds hit 136 home runs and struck out 146 times.


—If you turned every home run Bonds ever hit into an out, his career on base percentage would be .384, the same as Alex Rodriguez's.

—Between 1990 and 2004, Bonds was never lower than third in OPS, and he was third only three times.

—Bonds stole 340 bases through age 30; Derek Jeter has stolen 355 in his career.

—Bonds reached base just 330 fewer times than all-time leader Pete Rose, in 3,284 fewer plate appearances.

—Bonds opened the 2004 season with a stretch in which he reached base 45 times in 64 plate appearances, with nine home runs and four strikeouts.

—Bonds's slugging percentage in 2001 was .863. If that were his OPS, it would have ranked 27th in the National League, just behind teammate and defending MVP Jeff Kent's .877 mark.

—From 2002 to 2007, the only seasons for which data is available, Bonds made contact with 90.5 percent of strikes he swung at, varying from a seasonal low of 89.2 percent to a high of 93.7 percent.


—Bonds made 85 fewer outs than Ken Griffey Jr. did in 1,302 more plate appearances.

—Bonds had four sacrifice hits in his career. (Ted Williams had five; Hank Aaron had 21.)

—Through age 26, Bonds had 10.8 defensive WAR, more than any other outfielder in major league history other than Andruw Jones through that age.

—Bonds hit .333/.488/.576 against Pedro Martínez in 43 plate appearances; only Luis Gonzalez (of all people) hit him better.

—Bonds hit Randy Johnson for a 1.003 OPS in 62 plate appearances; no other left-handed hitter with 50 PAs did better than .888, and left-handers overall hit .199/.278/.294.

—After the San Francisco Giants moved to what is now known as AT&T Park, Bonds slugged .753 there in 1996 plate appearances, which is what Mark McGwire did in 1998, the year he hit 70 home runs.

—From 2001 to 2004, Bonds's on base percentage was .559; that would have been the 11th-highest slugging average in the National League during this period.

—Bonds's career rWAR of 162.4 is higher than those of Pete Rose and Nolan Ryan combined.


—Bonds took the extra base—advancing more than one base on a single, or more than two on a double—43 percent of the time, more often than Ichiro Suzuki.

—In his career, after going to a 3-0 count Bonds hit 30 home runs and struck out 25 times.

—In his 16 recorded bunt attempts, Bonds laid down two for sacrifices and picked up eight hits on the others, for a .571 batting average.

—Bonds hit 227 career home runs just off left-handers—more than 91 Hall of Fame position players hit in total.

—If Bonds were to return to the major leagues tomorrow, he would have to make 1,412 straight outs to drop his on base percentage below .400.

The Modern Era in baseball is from 1901-present.