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Would you have supported a smaller healthcare reform act, specifically one that
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:14 pm
merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:18 pm to Rex
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merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
The whole point of insurance is determining risk....
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:24 pm to Rex
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merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
Is is ok for a person to not have insurance and then be diagnosed with an illness or disease that requires lots of money to treat and insurance should have to cover it?
Hey I didn't have insurance on my home, but it burned down to the ground and everything was a total. Now I am going to buy insurance and file a claim on my home that burned down before it was insured...
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:25 pm to Rex
I would have supported reform that didn't throw the baby out with the bath water.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:27 pm to Rex
Depends. Did they have insurance before and had coverage lost for some reason?
Pre-existing conditions is an issue because it can deter people from actually going to the doctor out of fear, but also it doesn't make sense to buy car insurance after an accident and expect it to pay.
I don't know how to solve this problem.
Pre-existing conditions is an issue because it can deter people from actually going to the doctor out of fear, but also it doesn't make sense to buy car insurance after an accident and expect it to pay.
I don't know how to solve this problem.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:27 pm to Rex
Sorry the godless dem/lib conundrum strikes again as Darwin says "pre-existing conditions" are all part of the plan.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:28 pm to Rex
No. Apparently you don't know how insurance works, Which is incredible for a former "CFO". Shame on you.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:31 pm to Rex
No.
People w/ pre-existing conditions could already get insurance before Obamacare. They'd just have to get high-risk policies and pay a much higher premium than healthy people, which is how it should be.
People w/ pre-existing conditions could already get insurance before Obamacare. They'd just have to get high-risk policies and pay a much higher premium than healthy people, which is how it should be.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:35 pm to Rex
Nah
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:38 pm to Rex
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merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
Yeah they would. Then they get their cake without having to fricking pay.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:51 pm to Rex
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merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
I would have supported one that would have lowered health care cost by changing the pricing model WHICH would have had the effect of making pre-existing conditions a non-issue.
The IBFreeman health care plan would have taken all government provided health care to a voucher-based system that would have allowed recipients to keep any savings they were able to negotiate from providers. For example medicare people would get a $2000 a month voucher to subscribe to health care services or to buy health insurance. If they could but it for $1500 they would keep the difference.
The IBFreeman plan accomplishes a few very positive things for all of us.
First it makes shoppers out of millions of people. They will be much better shoppers than the government. They will be rewarded for buying lower cost plans while requiring the purchase of healthcare. This incentive will bring thousands of uninsured to the market.
Second it will end the direct purchasing of health care by the government which is filled with corruption and is the main reason health care cost have increased more than the rate of inflation.
Third it will encourage the creation of subscription-based health care eliminating the overhead insurance companies create. This will be the end of health insurance companies. They may morph into subscriber companies but the insurance unknowns will disappear.
Fourth this will allow providers to have predictable streams of income. The impact of pre-existing conditions will be much smaller. The cost in health care is too a large extent fixed. For example, Our Lady of the Lake has similar day to day cost if they do an open heart surgery on a day as they do on a day they do not. It really does not add to their cost to take on a pre-existing condition in a subscription-based pricing system.
Democrats should embrace such a plan because it incentivizes people to get insured and it makes universal coverage a reality.
Republicans should embrace it because it will change the pricing model and end the ever rising floor the direct purchase of health care by the government creates.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:25 pm to Rex
quote:No, considering that that isn't insurance.
merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:36 pm to Rex
Preexisting conditions occur the majority of the time because of the lack of personal responsibility. I have paid for my own health insurance for 20 years to have only start needing it in the past 2 years.
I didn't wait till I was already diagnosed with an illness to prepare for how it will be paid for.
I didn't wait till I was already diagnosed with an illness to prepare for how it will be paid for.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:50 pm to Rex
Sure, as long as their wasn't a cap on premium cost for a person with a pre-existing condition.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:18 pm to Rex
Charging people for known risks is part of ...well.. Insurance.
If someone waits until they're sick to get insurance, then you have ... well... Obamacare.
If someone waits until they're sick to get insurance, then you have ... well... Obamacare.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:30 pm to Rex
I prefer to have what I have now...a great plan that is immune from all of this ACA stupidity.
I'd say that it speaks volumes for a plan when no one that proposed / voted on it uses it while more and more people are being exempted from it since it was implemented.
I'd say that it speaks volumes for a plan when no one that proposed / voted on it uses it while more and more people are being exempted from it since it was implemented.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:50 pm to Rex
quote:Would you do a business plan that knows in advance that your company would lose money? What's worse, you don't even know how much you will lose because you don't how much these pre-existing conditions might cost. What is exactly our business background?
merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
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