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re: Anyone else watching the frontline story "Separate and Unequal"?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:34 am to Sir Drinksalot
Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:34 am to Sir Drinksalot
quote:yes i am,that's why i moved from the Shennendoah area to Watson. You can't fix stupid.
But you are just accepting the fact that they are incapable. THEY ARENT.
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:35 am to Geauxld Finger
"Creating an accepted culture"
That is baton rouges sole problem. Everything else stems from there.
That is baton rouges sole problem. Everything else stems from there.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 9:39 am to Sir Drinksalot
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"Creating an accepted culture"
That is baton rouges sole problem. Everything else stems from there
yes and it works in many facets. the resistance of many resident to grow and progress the area is a huge problem I have with NIMBY folks.
The school system here makes NOLA look like the Ivy League
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:00 am to Lloyd Christmas
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Lloyd Christmas
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I don't give a shite that yall are racist.
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Everyone knows that in Baton Rouge, a white school is considered a "good school". Quit pitching this as some God-Chosen Tea Party constitutional rights bullshite.
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Bodi White and Lionel Rainey are the dirtiest pieces of trash in this whole debate.
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But don't tell petition signers,
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because people called him names
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Central Klansman
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They are busing more "dangerous" kids from violent neighborhoods in BECAUSE of St George.
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Mr. and Mrs. Lily White will not be the first family to cross that line to send their kid to a "dangerous" school.
You're nothing if not predictable.Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:13 am to fr33manator
"All schools would be created equal."
Sure, But the question has been and always will be,
Can Baton Rouge run these schools efficiently?
Sure, But the question has been and always will be,
Can Baton Rouge run these schools efficiently?
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:15 am to fr33manator
Honest question only because I'm not in the know...
So St. George pulls away. In addition to the new school district is St. George also taking on roads, utilities, police, fire, etc?
Or is the idea simply to pull the school district away?
So St. George pulls away. In addition to the new school district is St. George also taking on roads, utilities, police, fire, etc?
Or is the idea simply to pull the school district away?
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:27 am to wiltznucs
The school district is secondary.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:32 am to wiltznucs
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So St. George pulls away. In addition to the new school district is St. George also taking on roads, utilities, police, fire, etc?
roads parish wide are handled by parish DOT
police will continue to be sheriff's department
they already pay for their own fire protection
They already pay for their utilities
Schools and the new city government bureaucracy will be the main new things they'll have to pay for.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:34 am to kingbob
Yep. Everyone that signed knew (unless they're stupid) that property taxes will increase. But probably, like myself, they don't care because unlike those years of decline, we will see our tax money actually doing something.
It's yet to be seen what exactly, but it will be a change at least.
It's yet to be seen what exactly, but it will be a change at least.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:47 am to Sir Drinksalot
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Yep. Everyone that signed knew (unless they're stupid) that property taxes will increase. But probably, like myself, they don't care because unlike those years of decline, we will see our tax money actually doing something.
It's yet to be seen what exactly, but it will be a change at least.
That's the right attitude to have, but clearly, the St. George organizers were misleading in saying that they could build all of those schools and finance a complete city government for 130,000 people without raising taxes. That was hogwash from the beginning.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:00 am to fr33manator
why didnt they mention BRMHS, catholic, or tara. Different sides and viewpoints.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:02 am to Geauxld Finger
Has anyone explained yet which students are getting bused to schools that aren't close to them? In what way will things be different in St George.
What, specifically, will the teachers do differently? What policies will be different? All I'm hearing are generalities and platitudes.
Let's be real. The only reason Central schools improved was because they stopped busing students in from North Baton Rouge. Desegregation and thus busing ended a couple of years ago.
What, specifically, will the teachers do differently? What policies will be different? All I'm hearing are generalities and platitudes.
Let's be real. The only reason Central schools improved was because they stopped busing students in from North Baton Rouge. Desegregation and thus busing ended a couple of years ago.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:03 am to kingbob
quote:They also would have to take over maintaining city streets. Right now it's doesn't matter if a street/road is a parish or city one, but it would matter if a new city is formed.
Schools and the new city government bureaucracy will be the main new things they'll have to pay for.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:07 am to LSURussian
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They also would have to take over maintaining city streets. Right now it's doesn't matter if a street/road is a parish or city one, but it would matter if a new city is formed.
No it doesn't. All roads are handled at the parish level in all cities and towns in EBR.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:07 am to fr33manator
How is St. George any different than independent school districts?
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:09 am to HeadSlash
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How is St. George any different than indepentent school districts?
Independent school districts must be approved by the legislature unless they are part of an incorporated city. For example, all students in Gonzales go to Ascension Parish Public schools, but if Gonzales wanted to form their own school system, they could using the boundaries of the city limits. If Prarieville (an unincorporated area) wanted to do the same, they would need either permission from the state legislature or they would need to incorporate.
St. George tried the independent school district, but it failed in the legislature (several times). Now, they're trying to succeed by incorporating.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:11 am to kingbob
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Independent school districts must be approved by the legislature unless they are part of an incorporated city.
Who lied to you? The constitutional amendment would still have to pass the legislature. It would still have to be approved by the voters, parish-wide.
eta: also, I suspect the St. George politicians have desires to include some of the city of Baton Rouge in their proposed school district (to grab more money). I just really doubt the boundaries will match up with the city. The city and the school would be two completely separate entities with two different taxing districts.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:13 am to Asgard Device
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Who lied to you? The constitutional amendment would still have to pass the legislature. It would still have to be approved by the voters, parish-wide.
Are you saying that independent school districts do not require going through the state legislature?
Are you saying that cities cannot have their own school systems independent from parish government?
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:17 am to kingbob
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Are you saying that independent school districts do not require going through the state legislature?
No. YOU said that.
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Are you saying that cities cannot have their own school systems independent from parish government?
No, its possible. Still has to go through the legislature and still has to be approved by the voters of EBR parish as a whole, as well as statewide. Nothing changes in that regard when a city is created.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:19 am to Asgard Device
I grew up in Central and graduated from there in 06. My question is why do I not remember there being such a backlash from BR about us wanting to incorporate?
I don't understand how people could not want better public schools... Property values skyrocketed in central after the incorporation due to so many people moving into the district
Now Central is in the top 5 I believe in districts in the state.
Why would people in St. George not want this?
During my 4 yrs at Central high I would say our demographics was 60/40 due to the m&m's ( minority to majority transfers) meaning that if you life's in EBR parish and were a minority the school system would bus you to a majority white school if your parents chose.
Now Central is closer to 90/10...
I don't understand how people could not want better public schools... Property values skyrocketed in central after the incorporation due to so many people moving into the district
Now Central is in the top 5 I believe in districts in the state.
Why would people in St. George not want this?
During my 4 yrs at Central high I would say our demographics was 60/40 due to the m&m's ( minority to majority transfers) meaning that if you life's in EBR parish and were a minority the school system would bus you to a majority white school if your parents chose.
Now Central is closer to 90/10...
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