re: Anyone else watching the frontline story "Separate and Unequal"?

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Aside from magnet students, which students are still getting bused to schools that are not local to them?

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A small amount from the state takeover schools can choose to be bused to another school. Other than that, it went away with the deseg lawsuit. But don't tell petition signers, this is part of the big Browning "truth"(Vote Browning for Mayor for ending busing)

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Tossing out the whole separate SG stuff....is all they really want what amounts to an ISD? I really don't know, but would they be happy with that?

If that is what it ends being I'd like to know the opposition other than the it's racist nonsense. That's just a cop out reason. As I said previously, that isn't anything ever mentioned by anyone when talking about the education set up in Texas.

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Lionel Rainey said they don't care about an ISD anymore, because people called him names he is against Baton Rouge no matter what, they cannot be appeased with an ISD, only complete separation will do.

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watched it ... good luck to st george ... been in public education for 20 years and i've yet to hear a logical reason to oppose more choice and/or smaller schools ...

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St George is less choice and larger schools. sorry

They "claim" they will be so rich that they will build a school in every neighborhood, without raising taxes.

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watched it ... good luck to st george ... been in public education for 20 years and i've yet to hear a logical reason to oppose more choice and/or smaller schools ...


St George is less choice and larger schools. sorry

They "claim" they will be so rich that they will build a school in every neighborhood, without raising taxes.

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no, st george will have THEIR school ... that's choice ...

the only reasons i hear against these types of movements are the same old "we can't be good without the whites" arguments ... at the 23:43 mark, the state rep states, essentially, i guess the whites think they are the only ones who want good schools ... so the absence of whites means a school can't be a quality school? ...

you folks opposed to these movements just don't have any belief in your ability to produce good schools, unfortunately ...

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no, st george will have THEIR school ... that's choice ...

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They have it now. They CHOOSE not to be involved because "its dangerous". They CHOOSE not to vote in school board elections. They CHOOSE not to vote in Metro Council elections. They have all the choice that every American has, they just CHOOSE to bitch and moan once a Central Klansman finds an unintended loophole in the law. These are the same people who when they do vote, elect and re-elect the same assholes who are failing them and their schools year after year.

How does changing the name of the owner of the school do anything? They are busing more "dangerous" kids from violent neighborhoods in BECAUSE of St George. The schools will not change. The same reason they do not send their kids to Woodlawn now, will still be present, but with more violent kids. Mr. and Mrs. Lily White will not be the first family to cross that line to send their kid to a "dangerous" school. Very few kids currently in private school will leave to be pioneers in this new school experiment.

They have 2 guys from Central(speaks for itself) leading their secession effort, I haven't seen a prominent person living in the insurgent area speak up in favor of this.

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They CHOOSE not to vote in school board elections.

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Hell, Sprocket doesn't even know who his School Board rep is.

It's not about schools, never was. If it was, they'd have taken more of an interest in the schools way before now.

I was in the first forced bused class of EBR. I have no clue what they were talking about in 1981 but it was in the 70's.

I was supposed to start junior high at Broadmore the next Fall having finished Twin Oaks Elementary school. It was almost all white and was considered an excellent school. It was well funded, had fencing, horseback riding etc, as was its main rival Tara. I was 12. I don't know what happened but I assume it was a federal court decision but we were instead bused to the worse junior high in the city Valley Park. Everyone with any connections etc got out of this or suddenly went to a private school. Before this they were small or nonexistent.

We were middle class white kids. Ritchie, Dwayne Wendell and I stuck together for safety all the time. The bus ride was over an hour maybe more. The kids at Valley Park were a mixture of a few good kids and a lot of thugs. It was mostly poor black kids.

On the first day of school we saw our first stabbing in the hall. ON that day, in August 1977 the East Baton Rouge School was done for. Even without internet or cell phones, the word quickly spread. We were in fear for our safety all year. My friends were beaten in the bathrooms, (We learned to just hold it) on the buses, and when they turned off the breakers at school.

I didn't go back the next year, I am not sure who did but it was a freaking disaster. It was the beginning of the end of the EBR school system and the middle class flight from this system. And it all started with that stabbing on the first day. One of the kids that was with us father was one the big radio personalities of the time. I am sure news spread fast and what middle class parent would sent their child into something like we went though.

that's the truth

36608 and send my kids to private schools. I was lucky enough to end up in Ocean Springs and get a good quality public education as rare as that is now.

Here is a link the the 1981 case they were talking about. We had to be under the pre 1978 plan or maybe my memory is fading . I remember talk of us being a test case or something and news media being there on occasion. All I was worried about was surviving.

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