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public ban on the use of tobacco
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:43 am
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:43 am
This was mentioned in the drug legalization thread, but I think its worth of its own discussion.
Currently, we severely curtail the use of alcohol publicly. There are limits to where you can drink and how much. In CO, you cannot publicly consume cannabis.
What about a partial ban of smoking outside of your personal property? No smoking in parks (drinking beer in parks is illegal where i live but not enforced), no smoking in front of door entrances (like california), no smoking on gov't grounds, no smoking on patios of bars. We could have designated smoking areas in clusters of businesses.
Personally I would love this from not having to deal with the smoke but its really anti-freedom IMHO.
Currently, we severely curtail the use of alcohol publicly. There are limits to where you can drink and how much. In CO, you cannot publicly consume cannabis.
What about a partial ban of smoking outside of your personal property? No smoking in parks (drinking beer in parks is illegal where i live but not enforced), no smoking in front of door entrances (like california), no smoking on gov't grounds, no smoking on patios of bars. We could have designated smoking areas in clusters of businesses.
Personally I would love this from not having to deal with the smoke but its really anti-freedom IMHO.
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:45 am to Hawkeye95
it is anti freedom
it is unconstitutional in terms of forcing private enterprises to comply
it is unconstitutional in terms of forcing private enterprises to comply
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:46 am to Hawkeye95
Lots of major cities have gone this route (including prohibitions at indoor public establishments) and I support it whole-heartedly. I remember the days of going out on the weekend and coming home smelling like smoke. Don't miss them.
I believe the last 5 hotels I stayed in were 100% smoke free.
I believe the last 5 hotels I stayed in were 100% smoke free.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:46 am to Hawkeye95
frick that.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:50 am to Hawkeye95
I used to smoke cigarettes, and still have one every now and then, and they absolutely should be cutailed in public use. They're nasty, but they sure can be delicious sometimes.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:51 am to Hawkeye95
No problem at all with indoor smoking bans in public buildings.
On private property, I agree that smoking should be banned indoors, but that's personal preference.
Should be up to the discretion of the business owner. If people don't like that smoking is allowed indoors, then they can take their business elsewhere.
Outdoor smoking bans are dumb, and are really just symbolic gestures that say "We care about health, and don't like smoking. Yay!"
People who toss their butts on the ground should get cited for littering though.
On private property, I agree that smoking should be banned indoors, but that's personal preference.
Should be up to the discretion of the business owner. If people don't like that smoking is allowed indoors, then they can take their business elsewhere.
Outdoor smoking bans are dumb, and are really just symbolic gestures that say "We care about health, and don't like smoking. Yay!"
People who toss their butts on the ground should get cited for littering though.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:52 am to Hawkeye95
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No smoking in parks
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Personally I would love this from not having to deal with the smoke
The obvious compromise is to designate certain areas of a park to allow smoking.
The smoking lobby isn't interesting compromise, though, and it means 20 years from now tobacco will basically be non-existent in public.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 11:53 am
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:54 am to Hawkeye95
Thought there for a minute you were talking about all tobacco. My snuff lip was starting to quiver.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:55 am to Hawkeye95
quote:Support.
No smoking in parks (drinking beer in parks is illegal where i live but not enforced), no smoking in front of door entrances (like california), no smoking on gov't grounds, no smoking on patios of bars. We could have designated smoking areas in clusters of businesses.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:01 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
What about a partial ban of smoking outside of your personal property? No smoking in parks (drinking beer in parks is illegal where i live but not enforced), no smoking in front of door entrances (like california), no smoking on gov't grounds, no smoking on patios of bars. We could have designated smoking areas in clusters of businesses.
This is already happening. There is a complete smoking ban on the Ole Miss campus (including the outside)
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:07 pm to Hawkeye95
I smoke but rarely in public and never in front of kids. Really the only time I smoke in public is outside a bar where others are smoking. I dont have a problem with any of the bans except on personal property.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:09 pm to Hawkeye95
Just an FYI... when the Superdome first opened in New Orleans back in the 70s they allowed smoking even though it was indoors. By the second half you cook look up at the roof and see huge clouds of cigarette smoke.
During that same era I also went to baseball games at the Astrodome and did not notice any smog in the air. Don't know if they banned cigarettes from the beginning or maybe they had a better ventilation system.
During that same era I also went to baseball games at the Astrodome and did not notice any smog in the air. Don't know if they banned cigarettes from the beginning or maybe they had a better ventilation system.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:29 pm to Hawkeye95
Statists gon' state.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:47 pm to Hawkeye95
This is why I live in south Louisiana. frick all this hippie shite. Its bad enough they are banning it on college campuses.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:05 pm to Hawkeye95
We are gonna look back and hate ourselves when all these poors stop smoking and live longer.
We don't need bans, we need to let nature take it's course. Smoking has been deemed lower class behavior by way of American Propagandist efforts.
This fact has forced middle and Upper Class Americans to discard the vice. We should leave it as is and idealize the smoking behavior in circles of poverty while pushing massively subsidized birth control for poors, funding it all with an increased tobacco tax.
Stop breeding poverty, people.
We don't need bans, we need to let nature take it's course. Smoking has been deemed lower class behavior by way of American Propagandist efforts.
This fact has forced middle and Upper Class Americans to discard the vice. We should leave it as is and idealize the smoking behavior in circles of poverty while pushing massively subsidized birth control for poors, funding it all with an increased tobacco tax.
Stop breeding poverty, people.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:14 pm to Hawkeye95
I'm glad I live where I live. Just about all bars, casinos, and even a few restaurants still allow smoking inside. There are no bans it's up to the businesses, as it should be. But then again there is a high percentage of people in the delta who smoke, probably more smoke than don't smoke
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:15 pm to Hawkeye95
I recall, well before Tennessee banned smoking in restaurants, that numerous restaurants were ending smoking on their premises entirely of their own volition. That's just like government, though. Wait until a movement gains traction then try and pass a law and act like it was all your idea anyway.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:40 pm to Hawkeye95
I don't even smoke, but frick that. That's just another shaming tactic.
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