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re: St. George keeps changing their budget.

Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:09 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135341 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:09 am to
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Where did I insult the thousands of magnet school parents?
The SG promoters called the magnet school parents "segregationists."

And that is really ironic since the main reason the SG promoters want to carve out a new school district is so they can have a majority white school district.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15803 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:09 am to
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There are potential solutions (like a series of charter schools created by the EBRPSB but under the management of a St. george board).

And look what members of the metro council wanted to do to the St George fire department board.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135341 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:11 am to
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And look what members of the metro council wanted to do to the St George fire department board.
Yeah, so? Did it pass? No, it didn't. It didn't even make it to the point of a discussion. Democracy in action.

If you're trying to make it look like SG is being treated unfairly, you shouldn't use examples where SG won on an issue.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 10:14 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86436 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:14 am to
Wasn't accusing you of anything, my friend.

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Why the need by some to insult the thousands of Magnet parents?

Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1125 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:46 am to
I thought that the vote was deferred due to Boe's absence. I didn't realize it had been shut down completely. If so metro council finally got one right.

I still don't have much faith in the council though, you have (in my opinion) 6 members who will automatically vote no on anything that has the phrase St. George or unincorporated anywhere in it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42952 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:40 am to
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Yeah, so? Did it pass? No, it didn't. It didn't even make it to the point of a discussion. Democracy in action. If you're trying to make it look like SG is being treated unfairly, you shouldn't use examples where SG won on an issue.


So key opponents of SG tried to stack the board of the SG Fire District for political reasons, but sense they failed it was OK, and no harm no foul???

Not in my mind. It was a clear example of how people in city government will go to any means to protect their interests even if it hurts mine.

Stuff like that only serves to illustrate why people want the city of SG. They want to get away from these people who could care less about what we in the suburbs face every day.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135341 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:49 am to
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It was a clear example of how people in city government will go to any means to protect their interests even if it hurts mine.
And you believe Bodi White and Lionel Rainey will always only look out for your best interests?

Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6304 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:51 am to
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Yea, these people are ready to run their own town.


Yea, just like these fine experts are ready to run their town:


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135341 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:52 am to
And posters tell me I'm off base when I say SG is all about race?!?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11839 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:53 am to
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SpidermanTUba


Just imagine how great this country would be if liberals were as hard on their government as the people they were against.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42952 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:54 am to
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And you believe Bodi White and Lionel Rainey will always only look out for your best interests?


Don't put words in my mouth.

White doesn't represent me, and I could care less about who Rainey is. In reality White represents a very small part of what would be SG in the Senate.

You and Asgard are trying to tarnish the issues here by slamming people. That crap doesn't work with me.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135341 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:56 am to
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You and Asgard are trying to tarnish the issues here by slamming people.
Where did I 'slam' you?
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That crap doesn't work with me.

What crap does work with you?
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6304 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:00 pm to
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And posters tell me I'm off base when I say SG is all about race?!?


You forgot about bias towards Italians, I guess.

Race or not, the fine ladies in this group are the ones who have proposed the ridiculous new legislation concerning residency, etc, in an immature and blatantly self-serving attack on St. George proponents. If that is not a clear, official documentation of the lack of ability to govern, I don't know what is.

If it is about race, it's about the racism of these women on the parish council.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135341 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:02 pm to
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the fine ladies in this group are the ones who have proposed the ridiculous new legislation concerning residency
Like Livingston Parish has done for years? And New Orleans?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42952 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Where did I 'slam' you?


You are slamming white and Rainey to cloud the issues.

quote:

What crap does work with you?


Facts, and constructive criticism.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6304 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Like Livingston Parish has done for years? And New Orleans?


Opposition to becoming more and more like New Orleans is certainly a motivation for the St. George movement.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42952 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:13 pm to
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And New Orleans?


Well we know New Orleans is a model of good government, right?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15132 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Race or not, the fine ladies in this group are the ones who have proposed the ridiculous new legislation concerning residency, etc, in an immature and blatantly self-serving attack on St. George proponents. If that is not a clear, official documentation of the lack of ability to govern, I don't know what is.


Yeah, that was a stupid move (that both Delgado and Holden opposed-BTW). That said, I generally like Tara Wicker. She usually has more sense.

But please don't delude yourself. Should it ever get created, the St. George city council will have it's share of idiots as well. Every elected body does.

Only it will be less noticeable since right now the Advocate covers the Metro council relatively well. Not saying you won't be able to find out what is going on, just that it won't be as readily accessible.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42952 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:17 pm to
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But please don't delude yourself. Should it ever get created, the St. George city council will have it's share of idiots as well. Every elected body does.


No doubt about that.
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1125 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 12:36 pm to
Livingston and New Orleans are not the issue here, the future of Baton Rouge and potentially St. George is. I think the previous posters point is that if you have half of the metro council that has made up their minds on any given topic before even discussing it, how is anything supposed to get done?

As far as name calling, I've seen it on both sides so far. What stands out to me is that while I've seen a few pro SG people make some stupid comments, the name calling from ELECTED OFFICIALS on the other side is more appalling to me. Not to mention the level of insults and generalizations coming from those against incorporating.

As far as leadership of the incorporation, I'm not a big Jenkins fan and I admit I don't know enough about Rainey or White to make an informed opinion. But I can say that I am firmly against anything that TogetherBR supports from what I've seen of them. I have heard from multiple people that the majority of the organizers and speakers at the recent event are from that group, any truth to that?

In the interest of full disclosure I currently have a home for sale in the St. George area. I am still undecided on whether or not I support the breakaway but heavily leaning for based on everything that's happened the past few months. I think the best thing to happen would be for the issue to come to vote and for us to hear a civilized debate from both sides. However Better Together had better rein in some of their supporters, I fear this is dividing the city and causing irreparable damage, regardless of how it turns out.
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