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re: NBA Considering Changing Draft Format
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:27 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:27 am to WG_Dawg
quote:NBA teams began tanking to get that first pick. No other league has had that problem. The lottery was designed to eliminate tanking, but it appears that this year teams are still doing it, so the league has to take action. Being bad at basketball on purpose is the worst thing a professional basketball league can have.
This may be a dumb question but I don't follow the NBA. Why don't they have a system like the NFL where it's merit based?
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:28 am to shel311
What an absolutely terrible idea. I'm sure the League LOVES the idea, because guess what? It keeps the teams with deep pockets in power even more.
The bad teams don't get "rewarded for being bad" and have to just stay on the treadmill forever.
Meanwhile, a team that is already great could get the 1,2,3 pick in a random year, STILL be great, and spend money on Free Agents that obviously only want to go to those situations.
And players will stay in school another year to not have to go to Charlotte or Milwaukee or Minnesota (or New Orleans, lets be honest).
The bad teams don't get "rewarded for being bad" and have to just stay on the treadmill forever.
Meanwhile, a team that is already great could get the 1,2,3 pick in a random year, STILL be great, and spend money on Free Agents that obviously only want to go to those situations.
And players will stay in school another year to not have to go to Charlotte or Milwaukee or Minnesota (or New Orleans, lets be honest).
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:33 am to Fleur De Lethal
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I think it would just increase the gap between the haves and the have nots in the NBA. Like you said, players will wait a year to go to the team they want.
Exactly. No way the owners sign off on something that puts SO much power into the players' hands. shite, draftees could leave now instead of later in order to go someplace desirable, or they could stay another year or two...or even miss a season due to "injury" or whatever. There's any number of ways a college player could work that system, and all the NBA teams could do is sit back and wait. There's not incentive for them to offer a top three pick to enter the draft now when everyone involved knows that the team is picking at #11.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:35 am to reddman
this has got to be the dumbest idea ever constructed
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:40 am to Fun Bunch
quote:The five smallest-market teams have a better cumulative record over the past seven seasons than the five biggest-market teams do.
What an absolutely terrible idea. I'm sure the League LOVES the idea, because guess what? It keeps the teams with deep pockets in power even more.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:40 am to reddman
Only thing they should change is the playoff format to a 5-5-7-7
IMO
IMO
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:41 am to shel311
Dont like this idea at all. Draft in the order you finsh. I could care less about the anti "tanking" crowd, in fact I dont have a problem with tanking at all. If a team isnt very good and wants the #1 pick to change the future of their franchise, they should be allowed to tank, because the reality is tanking IS a strategy. The reality is that tanking isnt about losing, its about winning, even if it means losing short term. Let them duel it out for the #1 pick. The year before we drafted Lebron, the Cavs absolutely tanked, anybody who tried hard got released. Turns out it was a great gamble that paid off with getting Lebron James. In my opinion its the great equalizer in the small market/big market debate. Small markets have to draft well, let them tank if they are willing to accept the consequences.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 10:42 am
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:42 am to Fun Bunch
I agree with you. I like the lottery a lot better. Even teams that tank arent assured the #1 pick. The Pelicans are a good example of that.
Imagine one of the top teams falling in line to nab a once in a generation player coming out in the draft. That wouldnt make the league better
Imagine one of the top teams falling in line to nab a once in a generation player coming out in the draft. That wouldnt make the league better
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:47 am to Lester Earl
Tanking is a far lesser evil than not even giving bad teams a fair chance to improve through the draft.
A bad team could have their #1 pick come along in a bad draft, get Anthony Bennett, and then not get another very good pick for TEN YEARS. The team is essentially doomed.
A bad team could have their #1 pick come along in a bad draft, get Anthony Bennett, and then not get another very good pick for TEN YEARS. The team is essentially doomed.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:49 am to Fun Bunch
quote:I'm sure it would rotate in such a way that you don't go 10 years without a top pick or 3 years in a row with top 5 picks.
and then not get another very good pick for TEN YEARS
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:50 am to Fun Bunch
quote:This draft proposal actually couldn't be more fair. Whether the idea is good is debatable, but it's definitely fair.
Tanking is a far lesser evil than not even giving bad teams a fair chance to improve through the draft.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:51 am to ballscaster
the system itself is fair and even, but the outside variables make it unfair
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:52 am to shel311
quote:You'd get a top 6 pick every five years with this rotation. The article has a graph showing the rotation order.
I'm sure it would rotate in such a way that you don't go 10 years without a top pick or 3 years in a row with top 5 picks.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:52 am to ballscaster
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This draft proposal actually couldn't be more fair. Whether the idea is good is debatable, but it's definitely fair.
If your definition of fair is that all teams have the same picks over the course of 30 years, ok.
But guess what? Sports leagues don't work like that. They try to give the worst teams a chance to get better by giving them higher picks. In this system, it could effectively wreck a franchise with absolutely not shot of recovery.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:53 am to shel311
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I'm sure it would rotate in such a way that you don't go 10 years without a top pick or 3 years in a row with top 5 picks.
The way it would rotate is right there in front of you.
"every team would be guaranteed one top-six pick every five seasons, and at least one top-12 pick in every four-year span"
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:55 am to reddman
YES PLEASE!
I like the pod idea better though
quote:
every team would be guaranteed one top-six pick every five seasons, and at least one top-12 pick in every four-year span:
I like the pod idea better though
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:55 am to Fun Bunch
quote:That's exactly fair.
If your definition of fair is that all teams have the same picks over the course of 30 years, ok.
quote:That's not unfair.
But guess what? Sports leagues don't work like that. They try to give the worst teams a chance to get better by giving them higher picks. In this system, it could effectively wreck a franchise with absolutely not shot of recovery.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 11:02 am to ballscaster
The NBA is by far the league with the least parity. So few teams win championships now and this will make it more unfair. Small market teams rarely get high level free agents, so they get compensated with high draft picks when they suck. Imagine a year like last year where the 4/5 pick is really hard cause all of the players arent that good. Or if they make one bad pick theyre fricked. This is so unfair to small market teams its ridiculous.
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