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UPDATE: Info on possible Texas Coaching Search
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:53 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:53 am
I had to chance to talk to a well-connect UT source earlier today...there was so much info shared, my head is about to explode.
Where to start...
If Mack beats Baylor Saturday he is co-champ of the Big 12. If that happens and if OU beats OSU, then UT would be in the BCS. If UT wins but OU loses, he would be in the Cotton. At the end of the day if he wins the conference outright, no one will fire him. If he is co-champ I personally doubt that they fire him. If he leaves at that point it would be because he is pissed off or unhappy that UT has been putting out feelers for replacements behind his back.
Assuming he does leave, Texas is going to swing big initially...in the words of an influentual donor, the mantra now is Championships...the best predictor of future success is past success. Big money alums have committed to underwriting the cost of a new coach. Texas is going to make an initial run at Nick Saban or Urban Meyer and throw $7 to 8 million per year at them. Urban had visited UT at least three times after he left Florida with interest in the job if it became available. This was before he took the Ohio State job.
When comparing Saban and Meyer, Meyer has the advantage of being 13 years younger than Saban and has a longer coaching shelf life. But would he bail on the Buckeyes after just two seasons?
The pitch to Saban will be that he gets a legit chance to win titles at three different schools...and he gets from under the shadow of Bear Bryant.
UT will play on the egos of both Saban and Meyer.
Mike Tomlin's (Steelers) agent has contacted Texas and he is on their dream list. John Harbaugh (Ravens) has also expressed interest through backchannels.
If they strike out with these guys, then you will see the focus slide to the people on the list below. The two names on that list that have been specifically mentioned by insiders are Mahlzan and Mora Jr. Mahlzan's agent has contacted Texas and asked that if the job comes up to call him. It is basically the same story with Mora Jr. who has some kind of relationship with the new Texas A.D., although Mora Jr. just agreed to new deal with UCLA.
If it comes down to it, assistants that will get a look are Scott Frost (OC at Oregon, played QB for Nebraska in mid-90s) and Kirby Smart (DC at Alabama).
On a side note, look for Major Applewhite to possibly make a lateral move to be OC at Florida. He and Muschamp are very tight. Major well respected as a coach and gets a lot of credit for the success of UT this year despite some major injuries on the offensive side of the ball.
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Assuming Mack Brown is out at end of season, who do you think replaces him?
Primary targets:
Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
NFL guys:
Mike Tomlin
John Harbaugh
Other high profile names:
David Shaw
Gus Malzahn
Jimbo Fisher
Charlie Strong
Chris Petersen (hired by University of Washington)
Jim Mora Jr. (staying at UCLA)
Or someone under the radar in college:
Larry Fedora (still hasn't had break-through season at UNC)
David Cutcliff (will probably stay at Duke due to low stress)
Where to start...
If Mack beats Baylor Saturday he is co-champ of the Big 12. If that happens and if OU beats OSU, then UT would be in the BCS. If UT wins but OU loses, he would be in the Cotton. At the end of the day if he wins the conference outright, no one will fire him. If he is co-champ I personally doubt that they fire him. If he leaves at that point it would be because he is pissed off or unhappy that UT has been putting out feelers for replacements behind his back.
Assuming he does leave, Texas is going to swing big initially...in the words of an influentual donor, the mantra now is Championships...the best predictor of future success is past success. Big money alums have committed to underwriting the cost of a new coach. Texas is going to make an initial run at Nick Saban or Urban Meyer and throw $7 to 8 million per year at them. Urban had visited UT at least three times after he left Florida with interest in the job if it became available. This was before he took the Ohio State job.
When comparing Saban and Meyer, Meyer has the advantage of being 13 years younger than Saban and has a longer coaching shelf life. But would he bail on the Buckeyes after just two seasons?
The pitch to Saban will be that he gets a legit chance to win titles at three different schools...and he gets from under the shadow of Bear Bryant.
UT will play on the egos of both Saban and Meyer.
Mike Tomlin's (Steelers) agent has contacted Texas and he is on their dream list. John Harbaugh (Ravens) has also expressed interest through backchannels.
If they strike out with these guys, then you will see the focus slide to the people on the list below. The two names on that list that have been specifically mentioned by insiders are Mahlzan and Mora Jr. Mahlzan's agent has contacted Texas and asked that if the job comes up to call him. It is basically the same story with Mora Jr. who has some kind of relationship with the new Texas A.D., although Mora Jr. just agreed to new deal with UCLA.
If it comes down to it, assistants that will get a look are Scott Frost (OC at Oregon, played QB for Nebraska in mid-90s) and Kirby Smart (DC at Alabama).
On a side note, look for Major Applewhite to possibly make a lateral move to be OC at Florida. He and Muschamp are very tight. Major well respected as a coach and gets a lot of credit for the success of UT this year despite some major injuries on the offensive side of the ball.
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Assuming Mack Brown is out at end of season, who do you think replaces him?
Primary targets:
Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
NFL guys:
Mike Tomlin
John Harbaugh
Other high profile names:
David Shaw
Gus Malzahn
Jimbo Fisher
Charlie Strong
Chris Petersen (hired by University of Washington)
Jim Mora Jr. (staying at UCLA)
Or someone under the radar in college:
Larry Fedora (still hasn't had break-through season at UNC)
David Cutcliff (will probably stay at Duke due to low stress)
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:57 am to Chicken
Hopefully they do the right thing and hire Ellis Johnson.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:05 am to Chicken
Cutcliff prolly no way ..he has heart issues and works better in the less stressful environment known as Duke FB. Other names look good. Fedora has underwhelmed.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:08 am to Chicken
Assuming that they don't faceplate in the SEC title game, I don't think Texas could outbid Auburn.
Not that UT doesnt have absurdly deep pockets, but because at this point with the turnaround and the super high profile win Aubbie'll probably mortgage the university of need be in order to get the money needed to keep him.
Not that UT doesnt have absurdly deep pockets, but because at this point with the turnaround and the super high profile win Aubbie'll probably mortgage the university of need be in order to get the money needed to keep him.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:09 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:09 am to Chicken
Charlie Strong (Texas could afford his $5 mil buyout), and USC is out of the running for him.
Gary Andersen
Chris Peterson
Major Applewhite
If I had to pick an NFL HC - Rex Ryan... he would go ape shite at Texas...or in college in general
Gary Andersen
Chris Peterson
Major Applewhite
If I had to pick an NFL HC - Rex Ryan... he would go ape shite at Texas...or in college in general
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:11 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:09 am to Chicken
Malzahn will get a chance to take it
Another name to watch might be Bill O'Brien
Another name to watch might be Bill O'Brien
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:48 am to Chicken
quote:
What NFL guys are likely candidates, if any?
Rich Kotite
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:20 am to Chicken
Gruden? Kubiak? Philbin? lol
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:30 am to Chicken
Why do people act like AU and UA are poor? Both are 100 million dollar programs.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 8:30 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:51 am to Chicken
I think you're starting to see more and more "in demand" coaches stay at their current school (although they do leverage their position to get long extensions and big raises). You can't tell me that Sharkisain (sp?) was USC's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice, and that's a program rich in history, success and a fertile talent base. Texas has a ton of money, but I think they'll have a hard time getting a BIG name like Saban, Meyer, etc. unless that big name just really wants a change of scenery (i.e. Saban in Miami) I know it's been said before, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them keep Brown one more year, and then make a run at Chip Kelly after next season
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:56 am to Chicken
Ive said it all along....Art Briles.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:02 am to Chicken
quote:
Chris Peterson
How many opportunities can one guy get?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:02 am to Chicken
Not flaming but is this the same source that said frank herron was committing to texas on signing day last yr?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:30 am to Chicken
quote:
Texas is going to make an initial run
quote:
Mahlzan's agent
Sounds like if they force out Mack, a bunch of coaches are going to get a new contract and Jimmy is going to buy a new yatch (or 10) before they get to their man. I'm sure they will try to money whip someone. I'm not sure it will work. It's pretty rare for coaches to leave a good school just over money. There's always some underlying reason.
It could be ties to a school (Sark), it could be a poor relationship with the AD (Beliema), or it could be sanctions they didn't create and don't want to deal with (Fran) but the number of coaches that go from one major school to another is incredibly small to begin with. But there are always a few that get paid as rumors swirl (Briles, Sumlin, Mora already this year). Texas is going to get a bunch of guys paid - probably including every single Jimmy Sexton client
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 12:26 pm to Chicken
So just to get this straight, they wouldn't go after Miles? One of the winningest coaches of the decade.
Do folks really just not respect him that much?
Do folks really just not respect him that much?
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:56 pm to Chicken
typical "big money booster" wish list and salaries w/ no actual grounding in reality
More than likely, none of that plays out as described in OP; however since every big name was thrown at the wall, maybe one will stick.
No belowpar, no care
More than likely, none of that plays out as described in OP; however since every big name was thrown at the wall, maybe one will stick.
No belowpar, no care
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 2:02 pm
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