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re: will Miles get any heat from the OkSt scandal?

Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:15 am to
Posted by BayouBengal0505
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:15 am to
Did Miles coach there in the last 4 years? Oh... no? Do not care then.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:20 am to
I'm pretty disappointed in Ok State response, seems like they're taking the pussy way out...

quote:

"Oklahoma State University is deeply troubled by these claims. We will investigate the accuracy of the allegations and take all appropriate action," said OSU President Burns Hargis. "We do not condone or tolerate improper conduct in our athletic programs. OSU requires everyone affiliated with the university to follow the rules and adhere to the highest ethical standards."
Sports Illustrated did not provide OSU all the specifics of the accusations, or the names of those it interviewed. And it appeared some of the accusations are based on hearsay. Once the stories are published and OSU has more details, it will investigate them thoroughly with the assistance of an independent investigator. OSU has contacted the NCAA and advised it of the accusations described.

OSU Vice President of Athletics Mike Holder said, "We are shocked by the allegations raised about our football program. We take the allegations seriously. Whether they have merit or not, we don't know. But we will find out.


Posted by MFV
Member since Oct 2008
909 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:24 am to
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I'm pretty disappointed in Ok State response


Setting up the we are guilty but It's the former head coaches fault so take it easy on us defense.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:33 am to
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I think the key thing here is LOIC which is pretty obvious.


the key thing here is allegations by former disgruntled players, hearsay and probably no one of significant involvement who will corroborate any of it. Unless there is something that OSU is really scared of and turns over to the NCAA, I doubt they give it much of a look.

Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:35 am to
As long as it's just hear say, nothing much will come from it.

If there is hard physical proof and people start confessing and implicating others, then it could get bad.
Posted by Freeloading Hippie
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:37 am to
Unfortunately this is a story will create a perception that will negativity reflect on LSU. Hopefully this blows over, but it is in the headlines.
Posted by The312
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:41 am to
The primary consequence of this story is the NCAA, the SEC, and every aspiring reformer in the media will now carefully scrutinize every aspect of LSU's recruiting, which increases the probability of some scandal here. It all makes me very anxious.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:41 am to
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Unfortunately this is a story will create a perception that will negativity reflect on LSU.


The fact that Larry Porter was our Recruiting Coordinator less than 4 years ago is my concern. I feel sure that handshakes still happen everywhere.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:46 am to
If anything happened T. Boone Pickens is behind it but no mention of him.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2870 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:49 am to
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Statute of Limitations


The "4-year statute" has an exception... Any blatant rule-breaking, (if the reports are true, then this certainly is "blatant"), can be investigated and is punishable.

Basically, there really isn't a statute in NCAA.

*No link, but I heard on Mike and Mike this morning.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 10:51 am
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:49 am to
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Well if les is a dumb as everyone thinks he is he probably didn't know it was going on.


Les isn't dumb, but doesn't mind if you underestimate him.
Posted by gorillaballin
uptown nola y'heard
Member since Dec 2007
550 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:50 am to
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It is a bad distraction as he tries to make a run for another MNC. Not good for LSU at all.


I worry about the distraction and future scrutiny on our recruiting. It's unfortunate but let's hope it just goes away like the OTL Auburn report. Like another poster said, the fact that Porter was with LSU a short while ago does not reflect well on us either...
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:52 am to
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Unfortunately this is a story will create a perception that will negativity reflect on LSU. Hopefully this blows over, but it is in the headlines.


Yep I agree, it is going to be national news for some time just like the Miami pay-for-players scandal with Shapiro went on for awhile, especially because they are making it a 5 part story. Those frickers!!!
Posted by reg469
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2010
836 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:53 am to
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Ben Buie ?@Blackbellybuie3m
00-04 I never saw anything like this, and the characters that they chose to interview are shady at best. Miles was such a tight arse, no way


This is a former Miles player at OKState. Many are coming forward with a similar assessment.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3945 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:57 am to
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This is the part that bugs me!

T. Boone Pickens, the school's most prominent booster, was not implicated in any improprieties by SI's sources.


With reportedly $25,000 dollar payments? Of course not.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3945 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:01 am to
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I think this thing is going to be more problematic for Miles than most think. I imagine OSU is going to try put all of this on him to try and save their own asses.


They still have a 2005-2011 gap they have to fill. Unless they say Miles did moonlighting for them during that time period. The fact that it spans two coaches tells you it was a rampant booster issue.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:02 am to
The one thing that makes me breath a little bit easier is that Miles isn't implicated that much in the story other than "allegedly" giving a name of a booster for a player to contact regarding a job. And if that is it, Miles has complete deniability here. But the Larry Porter stuff does scare me because of his involvement at LSU.

The one thing is for sure, this is definitely going to bring down some scrutiny on LSU and I would assume some NCAA investigators along with frick head reporters looking for a story at LSU with the same results from Ok St. Hopefully we have our ducks in a row here. This has the potential to be a real problem whether people believe it or not.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:09 am to
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This is the part that bugs me!

T. Boone Pickens, the school's most prominent booster, was not implicated in any improprieties by SI's sources.


With reportedly $25,000 dollar payments? Of course not.


Well if you can't see the connections than you aren't looking straight ahead. SI owned by CNN which also owns CNBC where T. Boone is a prominent speaker for CNBC and interviewed a whole lot!!!

fricking stinks, SI sits there and blows the whistle on Ok St and the coaches, players and boosters from 2001 thru at least 2011 but try and protect T. Boone because of his affiliation with CNBC what a bunch of hypocritical pricks!!!

First of all do they think we are that stupid as to believe that T. Boone had nothing to do with any of this!!! I hope the reporters get tarred and feathered if they go back to Oklahoma and some of those cowboys there, they will do it.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:10 am
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:10 am to
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This has the potential to be a real problem whether people believe it or not.


Seriously doubt it. This whole story is based off 3 former players that were kicked off the team. There's nothing to corroborate their story, unlike the Miami story that had detailed payments charted out.

Also LSU has one of the best compliance departments in the nation. There won't be any evidence of wrongdoing at LSU that hasn't been self reported.
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