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re: will Miles get any heat from the OkSt scandal?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:10 am to MFV
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:10 am to MFV
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I think this thing is going to be more problematic for Miles than most think. I imagine OSU is going to try put all of this on him to try and save their own asses.
Given the time frame involved, that might be difficult since Gundy has been OC or HC for the entire time period involved. It will be hard to pin it on Miles alone under those circumstances. At the end of the day, I doubt much will happen. The case looks pretty sketchy.
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:15 am to tigerinridgeland
But at least we get a FIVE-PART EXTRAVAGANZA from Sports Illustrated as they try to stay relevant.
In fact, the way that organization is handling this - as a miniseries of DRAMA - really helps the story end up dragging out to be dull and come off as fiction.
Dear SI, if you have the goods, post it all now. If this is soooo serious, why make us wait? Oh, that's right...internet hits and ratings.
In fact, the way that organization is handling this - as a miniseries of DRAMA - really helps the story end up dragging out to be dull and come off as fiction.
Dear SI, if you have the goods, post it all now. If this is soooo serious, why make us wait? Oh, that's right...internet hits and ratings.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:17 am to Jwho77
the girls have to admit that they had sex with the recruits...........thats the part that everyone is overlooking, women NEVER admit to sleeping with anyone, why in the hell would they do it in this case, how can the NCAA prove something if both parties don't admit it, THEY CANT, too much hearsay....not money involved so no money trail....AKA NCAA CANT DO shite
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:19 am to Ignignot
Well aware the NCAA cannot do anything here. I think SI should have passed this story along to the National Enquirer instead. I assume that rag is as irrelevant as SI is becoming.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:24 am to EarthwormJim
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Seriously doubt it. This whole story is based off 3 former players that were kicked off the team. There's nothing to corroborate their story, unlike the Miami story that had detailed payments charted out.
Also LSU has one of the best compliance departments in the nation. There won't be any evidence of wrongdoing at LSU that hasn't been self reported.
I hope you are right, like I said this is definitely going to bring more scrutiny!!!
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:26 am to Dudebro2
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like I said this is definitely going to bring more scrutiny!!!
No it wont. You cant bring any more of that on Miles than the LSU fans have already
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:31 am to More beer please
Can anyone speak to this? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black if true. This references a comment made in 2010. LINK
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Where did Thayer Evans attend college?
"A source tells me that Mr. Evans attended Galveston College for a short time before getting a job at the Houston Chronicle. When inaccuracies in his resume were discovered, he quietly left the Chronicle for a role at the NYT office in Houston. With these new additions to his resume he was able to get a job as a sportswriter at Fox Sports. A confidant of Thayer says that he was told that there is nothing illegal in accepting money from alumni of one school to write articles that portray either players or other schools as dirty. "You just have to be vague enough to avoid slander and libel charges."
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:33 am to More beer please
Some folks really need to calm down. Miles will be asked about this when interviewed, I'm sure, but he will speak and say nothing at the same time, as usual. He shouldn't give this any attention at all. Not at this stage, anyway.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:36 am to Jwho77
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Well aware the NCAA cannot do anything here.
This is completely untrue. The NCAA has used the "willful violators" clause to investigate further back than the statute of limitations on the Miami case. They could do the same here. Not saying they will, but they definitely CAN do something.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:46 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:48 am to YouAre8Up
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YouAre8Up
You think people don't know what the story is by now.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:53 am to Dudebro2
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Well if you can't see the connections than you aren't looking straight ahead. SI owned by CNN which also owns CNBC where T. Boone is a prominent speaker for CNBC and interviewed a whole lot!!!
CNN and CNBC are owned by two different companies (Turner and NBC Universal, respectively).
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:56 am to YouAre8Up
The disputes:
So Josh Fields and Tatum Bell took payments but personally denied taking payments? What a hack job. Reid lost he job and still denied receiving payments. SI is losing even more credibility now.
So Josh Fields and Tatum Bell took payments but personally denied taking payments? What a hack job. Reid lost he job and still denied receiving payments. SI is losing even more credibility now.
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"I'm in disbelief," Fields told ESPN's Brett McMurphy on Tuesday. "I never had anyone attempt to give me any type of payments or do my schoolwork and never saw my teammates accept money. I never accepted anything. Seeing my name in there was a shock."
SI also claimed that former quarterback Bobby Reid was given money. During a notable September 2007 news conference, Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy staunchly defended Reid after an Oklahoman columnist questioned Reid's maturity. But four former Cowboys told SI that after Reid lost his starting job, he stopped receiving bonus money. Reid, too, denied receiving money while a player.
Subsequent installments of the investigative piece allege that there also was widespread academic misconduct involving the football program, that the program tolerated recreational drug use and that members of a hostess program had sex with recruits.
Fields, who was the starting QB from 2001-03 under Miles, whit Gundy as his quarterbacks coach, also said there were never boosters in the locker room before or after games or on the planes.
Fields disputed the credibility of the players quoted in the story. Five of those players were dismissed from Oklahoma State for various reasons.
"Anyone that played at OSU or is from Stillwater knows those guys (quoted) are not credible," Fields told McMurphy. "If you thought guys were getting paid, why not prominent players instead of back ups and third-string guys?"
The SI report claims that the timing of the violations coincided with Miles' arrival at Oklahoma State in 2000. The Cowboys had gone 3-8 the year before Miles became coach, but afterward the football budget was increased. Assistants were paid more, players ate better, facilities were upgraded, but, according to players SI interviewed, the culture change around the football program also included NCAA violations.
T. Boone Pickens, the school's most prominent booster, was not implicated in any improprieties by SI's sources.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:58 am
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:57 am to TheRookbird
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This is completely untrue. The NCAA has used the "willful violators" clause to investigate further back than the statute of limitations on the Miami case. They could do the same here. Not saying they will, but they definitely CAN do something.
This is what scares me. The "statute" doesn't really exist.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:58 am to CecilShortsHisPants
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This is completely untrue. The NCAA has used the "willful violators" clause to investigate further back than the statute of limitations on the Miami case. They could do the same here. Not saying they will, but they definitely CAN do something.
But even assuming they did so, the punishments would be levied against OSU, not Miles personally. Or are you concerned that a detailed investigation of Miles' conduct at OSU would lead to a subsequent inquiry at LSU?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:05 pm to The312
I hope some people know how crazy they sound.
You really think SI put this story together about OSU from allegations years ago in some sort of anti-LSU, anti-Les Miles conspiracy?
You really think SI put this story together about OSU from allegations years ago in some sort of anti-LSU, anti-Les Miles conspiracy?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:07 pm to IAmReality
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You really think SI put this story together about OSU from allegations years ago in some sort of anti-LSU, anti-Les Miles conspiracy?
Uh, no. And I certainly never said as much. All I stated was that even if the NCAA used the willful violation clause to reach back further than four years, the sanctions would nonetheless be directed at OSU, not LSU or Miles personally.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:09 pm to IAmReality
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You really think SI put this story together about OSU from allegations years ago in some sort of anti-LSU, anti-Les Miles conspiracy?
Not SI, but maybe the writer.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:13 pm to IAmReality
Yes I do for a shock value to sell. Thayer is a known hack that has an agenda against OSU and anyone who is seen as a threat to OU. He needs to be exposed for what he is.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:21 pm to TigerFanNKaty
i mean who's to say UT alums or OU alums aren't paying Thayer money on the side to write this article????
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