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Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:12 am to WestCoastAg
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already being ingrained in the culture imo
Like our baseball and football...very good answer
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:24 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Sports preference is about 1. Marketing 2. Availability
Bingo. I think It's because there's only one commercial break in a 90 minute match, and thus not much opportunity to catch people's attention, which is why a lot of major networks don't carry it. (exclusively)
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:46 am to beaverfever
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as far as being objectively boring based on scoring I guess your right but football definitely would rank high on the "action" scale.
10 minutes of action drawn out over 3 hours, mainly consisting of commercials. Football has the least action of any sport.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:48 am to UltimateHog
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If soccer took away offsides and maybe took away 2 players from each team on the field to open it up more, maybe, only maybe would I consider sitting through a match.
That exist.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:05 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Bingo. I think It's because there's only one commercial break in a 90 minute match, and thus not much opportunity to catch people's attention, which is why a lot of major networks don't carry it. (exclusively)
NBC is going to show every EPL match next season.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:10 am to Sophandros
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NBC is going to show every EPL match next season.
And Notre Dame football. And SNL without Jason Sudeikis or Bill Hader. And the Office is gone. So... what's your point?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:11 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
BTW, that wasn't really a slight on Soccer, just NBC and the EPL. Bundesliga all the way!!
Posted on 5/29/13 at 6:16 am to WestCoastAg
Soccer is for elementary-high school kids.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 6:48 am to UltimateHog
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If soccer took away offsides and maybe took away 2 players from each team on the field to open it up more, maybe, only maybe would I consider sitting through a match.
If you do this, you would really have to make the field smaller. Also, taking away offside would not make it better.
I think the real question is, why do Americans only pay attention to goals? Some of the best soccer games I've watched have ended 0-0.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:03 am to WestCoastAg
I used to dislike soccer.
Then I started playing FIFA and learned the basics of the rules and such.
Now I like it, and I feel like if MLS were more exciting (like EPL), that it would have a bigger following
Soccer fandom > Football fandom
Then I started playing FIFA and learned the basics of the rules and such.
Now I like it, and I feel like if MLS were more exciting (like EPL), that it would have a bigger following
Soccer fandom > Football fandom
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:24 am to WestCoastAg
America is going to look like a completely different Country in 20 years due to demographics. I expect soccer to be top 3 and I firmly believe soccer will be king within 50 years.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 7:26 am
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:26 am to pvilleguru
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I think the real question is, why do Americans only pay attention to goals?
Because that's the point of the whole game?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:45 am to WestCoastAg
There are tons of reasons why a sport is popular or not in a particular location. Some of them are external to the sport such as tradition and history, support by others in the community, availability, etc. These things tend to work together to keep older sports popular and prevent newer sports from taking hold.
Then there are the factors that actually deal with how much people like the actual sport itself. IMO one of the biggest reasons football is so popular is b/c the scoring amount seems "right" to us. In soccer (and to a lesser degree hockey and baseball) there is not enough scoring. Casual fans especially remember the scores, those are the highlights. With those sports there is just not enough highlight material to justify 2-3 hours of time. I'd argue that basketball goes too far in the other direction. Scores are too easy to come by and that makes them not special. With football every score is important, and they come often enough to keep us happy (football is also somewhat different in that there are multiple ways to score that are worth very different amounts of points). A TD is more than twice as valuable as a field goal.
IMO no sport is perfectly designed for current tastes. Soccer, hockey and baseball don't have enough scoring. Baseball is too slow. Soccer and hockey don't have breaks to catch your breath...you have to pay attention the whole time. Football has too many breaks and takes too long between the action, and the game is slightly too long overall. Basketball has cheapened the value of points and the end of basketball games (which should be the most exciting) tends to grind to a halt with excessive timeouts and free throws. Tennis is too repetitive and the time of matches is too variable (you don't know whether to schedule two hours or five for a match).
Then there are the factors that actually deal with how much people like the actual sport itself. IMO one of the biggest reasons football is so popular is b/c the scoring amount seems "right" to us. In soccer (and to a lesser degree hockey and baseball) there is not enough scoring. Casual fans especially remember the scores, those are the highlights. With those sports there is just not enough highlight material to justify 2-3 hours of time. I'd argue that basketball goes too far in the other direction. Scores are too easy to come by and that makes them not special. With football every score is important, and they come often enough to keep us happy (football is also somewhat different in that there are multiple ways to score that are worth very different amounts of points). A TD is more than twice as valuable as a field goal.
IMO no sport is perfectly designed for current tastes. Soccer, hockey and baseball don't have enough scoring. Baseball is too slow. Soccer and hockey don't have breaks to catch your breath...you have to pay attention the whole time. Football has too many breaks and takes too long between the action, and the game is slightly too long overall. Basketball has cheapened the value of points and the end of basketball games (which should be the most exciting) tends to grind to a halt with excessive timeouts and free throws. Tennis is too repetitive and the time of matches is too variable (you don't know whether to schedule two hours or five for a match).
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:48 am to TheOcean
u.s. is set to rule soccer in the next 50 years.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:49 am to GumBro Jackson
Well, the bitter reality is that there are going to be some MAJOR changes with the NFL once a few of these lawsuits are ruled against them. The game may be completely different within twenty years, so keep that in mind.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 7:51 am to TheOcean
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Well, the bitter reality is that there are going to be some MAJOR changes with the NFL once a few of these lawsuits are ruled against them. The game may be completely different within twenty years, so keep that in mind.
I agree with this. We will see if the sport evolves in a way that it remains popular.
As numerous people have noted, back in the early 1900's the most popular sports were baseball, horse racing, and boxing. Of those, only baseball remains in the top three (or even the top five).
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:01 am to GumBro Jackson
Soccer is about to pass up Baseball. It will never pass up basketball or football. Soccer is the quickest growing sport in America along with Lax
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:02 am to alabamabuckeye
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I used to dislike soccer.
Then I started playing FIFA and learned the basics of the rules and such.
This is my story, except I played a little soccer growing up and knew the rules. I honestly believe the growth of soccer can be largely attributed to FIFA. I was mostly a baseball player growing up and hated soccer. Since I started playing FIFA in 06, I've become a soccer fanatic and can't watch baseball anymore.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:04 am
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:05 am to thebert4130
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u.s. is set to rule soccer in the next 50 years.
I hope so, but I'm just not so sure. A prime example will be tonight when tiny Belgium most likely beats the US Mens National Team pretty handily.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:05 am
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