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Lets talk about americas lack of interest in soccer

Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:49 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:49 am
so soccer is the most popular sport in the world but it is probably the number 4 or 5 sport in america. i understand it is the most played youth sport in this country but that has not translated into actual interest in the game as people age. anyone have any theory on why this is?

my theory is that we we able to adopt our own sport identity because we broke away from england early on and therefore, england and other european colonial powers couldnt instill their sports into our culture and we were allowed to develop our own. not to mention that in the united states, you have much more competition in regards to sports leagues and what not with the NBA, the NFL, the MLB, and the NHL all being the #1 league in the world of their respective sport and that isnt even getting into americas love of college sports.

anybody else have a different theory?
Posted by dawgfan1979
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:53 am to
When we broke away from England was Soccer a sport?


I do know that cricket was, and thus we evolved it into baseball.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:55 am to
and football is an evolution of rugby. the cambridge rules were drawn up in the mid 1800s but i bet people kicked a ball around and tried to put it through a goal throughout all of history
Posted by dawgfan1979
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:03 am to
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people kicked a ball around and tried to put it through a goal throughout all of history



I'm sure they did, but at a professional level its boring to Americans i believe.

We already have Baseball, Hockey, Gridiron football, basketball...maybe there just isn't enough room.

I really don't have an answer...just pondering, same as you

Posted by peopleschamp
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:07 am to
Soccer isn't very exciting from an action standpoint. The defense played at a professional soccer level is very impressive. It makes for a pretty boring game. Make the goals a few feet wider on each side, a couple of feet higher, and eliminate off sides and you've got something more fun to watch.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:14 am to
I think a lot of it really is preference. Americans also generally prefer football and basketball over baseball which is a more objectively "boring" sport. We like more action. UFC is growing and boxing is dying. Instant gratification society. And American Football really is God's gift to athletics. Just a great sport.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:18 am to
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Make the goals a few feet wider on each side, a couple of feet higher, and eliminate off sides and you've got something more fun to watch.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:23 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:20 am to
quote:

I think a lot of it really is preference. Americans also generally prefer football and basketball over baseball which is a more objectively "boring" sport. We like more action.


Football is objectively the most boring sport, least action sport there is.

Sports preference is about 1. Marketing 2. Availability thats it
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:22 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:26 am to
quote:

so soccer is the most popular sport in the world but it is probably the number 4 or 5 sport in america



behind baseball, football, and basketball certainly

hockey, boxing, MMA, NASCAR are probably more popular in the US as well (I would have guessed).
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:29 am to
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Football is objectively the most boring sport, least action sport there is.
as far as being objectively boring based on scoring I guess your right but football definitely would rank high on the "action" scale.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:31 am to
quote:


behind baseball, football, and basketball certainly

hockey, boxing, MMA, NASCAR are probably more popular in the US as well (I would have guessed).
When talking how big the industries are in the US I would guess golf is probably bigger than those 4 and soccer behind probably all of them.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:36 am to
probably true, I should have included golf

The OP asks a good question but I'm not sure there's an easy answer to it other than perhaps cultural history. If you grow up with a sport then you'd have more of a chance of latching onto it as your favorite. I played soccer for years and for the most part lost interest by the end of high school.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:38 am to
It's just painfully boring to try and watch.

I mean there's what, 4-7 shots on goal on average in most games? I think the USA had 1 shot on goal against Mexico back in March in a 0-0 draw.

Yeah, a 0-0 tie between the US and Mexico is sure to get the sport going in this country.

Our sports have shot clocks to prevent them from getting boring, multiple "scores" per game especially in the NFL anymore which is pretty much an air raid attack and high scoring.

Baseball is slow, but even still the best pitchers in the game usually allow 2-3 runs per start and they only start once every 5 days. Other times you got guys that give up 3-5+ earned run average =, enough to keep interest.

Hockey you're going to get 2-3 goals usually minimum with the way the game is now, but more importantly there is 1 timeout all game, and very few stops in play, resulting in 25+ shots on goal per game and the better teams 30-40 shots on goal giving you constant action.

Basketball has a shot clock to keep the pace up decently and obviously a ton of shots, momentum swings, high flying dunks, etc.

If soccer took away offsides and maybe took away 2 players from each team on the field to open it up more, maybe, only maybe would I consider sitting through a match.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:40 am
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:42 am to
quote:

Make the goals a few feet wider on each side, a couple of feet higher, and eliminate off sides and you've got something more fun to watch.
that completely kills the game imo
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32643 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:44 am to
Yeah if soccer could get to where there where like even 1/3 as many scoring opportunities as in hockey it would be way more entertaining.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145064 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:47 am to
i understand the boring factor, hell to be honest i dont think ive ever been able to sit and watch a full game, but if thats why it hasnt caught on in the US, how has it been able to catch on in every other country in the world?

This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:50 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:50 am to
well played it is not boring and someone who is a passionate fan of the sport will argue it has a lot more action than sports like baseball, football, and golf for example

I think it just hasn't reached the critical mass necessary to make it an "it" event where the stadiums rock here in teh states
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32643 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:52 am to
quote:

i understand the boring factor, hell to be honest i dont think ive ever been able to sit and watch a full game, but if thats why it hasnt caught on in the US, how has it been able to catch on in every other country in the world?


poverty, lack of options, already being ingrained in the culture imo. Basketball is exploding in smaller poor countries that are being exposed to it.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:53 am to
What's the avg age of the posters in this thread? Just curious.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145064 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:57 am to
quote:

poverty, lack of options, already being ingrained in the culture imo
thats where i was heading with my OP. just wanted to know what others were thinking
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