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I have been thinking about what causes people to litter.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:11 pm
I have lived in LA for over 30 years and have always been dismayed at how people treat their roadways and waterways. The sight of someone throwing garbage out their window or tossing the empty beer can over the side of a boat is common. Most of those people would not throw garbage in their front lawn (of course, many do), so why do they fell it is ok to trash places that do not belong to them. The out-of-sight, out-of-mind syndrome is far too common and we certainly have one of the trashiest states in the country.
My wife and I are in the NW getting ready to start site prep work on our summer home/retirement home next week and it is always striking to me how much cleaner this part of the country is when compared with LA. We ran up to BC today for a quick visit and discovered one of the reasons that their roads are so clean...the posted fine for littering is $2,000 Canadian!
What are your theories about why LA residents, especially sportsmen who should know better, seem so willing to trash their own state. What can/should be done to change the culture? LA is a spectacular state and should be respected.
My wife and I are in the NW getting ready to start site prep work on our summer home/retirement home next week and it is always striking to me how much cleaner this part of the country is when compared with LA. We ran up to BC today for a quick visit and discovered one of the reasons that their roads are so clean...the posted fine for littering is $2,000 Canadian!
What are your theories about why LA residents, especially sportsmen who should know better, seem so willing to trash their own state. What can/should be done to change the culture? LA is a spectacular state and should be respected.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:13 pm to islandtiger
I don't litter intentionally, sometimes empty beer cans fly out the bed of my pickup.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:15 pm to islandtiger
People in the NW take more pride in where they live. Shame too, since some of La is naturally beautiful.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:17 pm to islandtiger
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What are your theories about why LA residents, especially sportsmen who should know better, seem so willing to trash their own state.
Laziness. Plain and simple.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:20 pm to islandtiger
Germany is the cleanest place I have ever seen. Not a single cigarette butt nor candy bar wrapper. It was eerie how clean it was.
Not saying that a dirty LA is better, by any means.
Not saying that a dirty LA is better, by any means.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:35 pm to islandtiger
People are lazy as all get out.
Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:49 pm to islandtiger
They just don't care. And they aren't educated enough to realize that they should care. They think that trash on side of the road won't affect them. But it does. A states image has a lot to say about the potential workforce when companies are investigating moves. We have a lazy image, therefore we are forced to offer ridiculous tax breaks to entice new jobs to the state. People who don't care about their own home typically don't care about quality and productivity when they are working for you.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 8:21 am to islandtiger
None of my family toss anything out of the window with he exception of a Nannette peel or apple core. My dad was adamant about that as well.
Litterers are just lazy people who don't want to take the extra time to pack up their trash. That's the bottom line.
Litterers are just lazy people who don't want to take the extra time to pack up their trash. That's the bottom line.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 9:39 am to islandtiger
It was like that over much of the country until Ladybird Johnson's road beautification movement in the 60's & 70's. It just never caught on in much of LA. Though overall, LA has greatly improved since those days...you should have seen it in the 70's.
Lazy and trashy people are what the are, regardless of where they live.
Lazy and trashy people are what the are, regardless of where they live.
quote:What's that...about $32.75 american?
.the posted fine for littering is $2,000 Canadian!
Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:57 pm to islandtiger
This is something that has pissed me off for long time. I see people every day flicking their cigg butts out the window. I saw a low life just dump his trash out the window in a school zone. The number one reason is education and parenting.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 9:44 pm to islandtiger
Hell, I've watched people throw shite in my yard as they drove by. It's not careless, it's deliberate.
Posted on 3/24/13 at 12:22 am to islandtiger
It ain't worth much thought. It's laziness. Pure, and simple.
Posted on 3/24/13 at 8:03 am to islandtiger
When I first moved to LA in 1987, I couldn't believe the litter I saw everywhere. I couldn't grasp how people could just leave trash everywhere.
And it's not a demographic thing... I saw it at LSU after football games, wherein even the wealthy tailgaters left their shite everywhere for someone else to clean up.
Instead of "Give a Hoot, Don't pollute" it is "Don't give a shite, let it sit".
Up here it's not near as bad despite this being a relatively poor area of the US (but not nearly as diverse as LA).
I guess some people just respect the environment more than others.
Conservation is conservative, an idea that seems lost on many otherwise conservative folks in LA IMO.
Maybe it's because the social trust levels in LA are so low?
More research into social or societal trust levels in relation to the diversity of a population might be in order to gain a better understanding?
Here's a good start for those so inclined:
LINK
Google this: diversity versus social trust levels
And it's not a demographic thing... I saw it at LSU after football games, wherein even the wealthy tailgaters left their shite everywhere for someone else to clean up.
Instead of "Give a Hoot, Don't pollute" it is "Don't give a shite, let it sit".
Up here it's not near as bad despite this being a relatively poor area of the US (but not nearly as diverse as LA).
I guess some people just respect the environment more than others.
Conservation is conservative, an idea that seems lost on many otherwise conservative folks in LA IMO.
Maybe it's because the social trust levels in LA are so low?
More research into social or societal trust levels in relation to the diversity of a population might be in order to gain a better understanding?
Here's a good start for those so inclined:
LINK
Google this: diversity versus social trust levels
Posted on 3/24/13 at 8:28 am to islandtiger
We have the same thing going on in Florida. It seems to be getting worse in the past few years. I visit a lot of bad areas in my profession and I personally think it is far worse in lower class ares compared to better areas of the city. There seems to be a demographic link to the problem (I'm trying to be politically correct) You go to the Wal Mart areas of the city and there is shite everywhere. People will just throw shite out of their car windows without any regard. It is a shame.
Our waterways are pretty clean. Green jeans will bust your arse if they see any littering going on down here.
Our waterways are pretty clean. Green jeans will bust your arse if they see any littering going on down here.
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