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Why does "How I met.." get love, but "The Big Bang..." gets hate?

Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:47 am
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:47 am
I have a feeling that it's just because The Big Bang Theory is directly competing against our beloved show, Community.

Both are 3 camera sitcoms. Both have laugh tracks (ohhhh the horror!). Both target the same audience.


Anybody have a better explination?
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:49 am to
HIMYM isn't as nerdy maybe?
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:50 am to
How I met Your Mother gets plenty of hate.

They are dragging it out.
Ted is annoying.
Dropped storylines.

Where did Sandy Rivers Go?!?



How I met Your Mother at least attempts interesting forms of story telling and has some clever humor, even if it over plays it often.

quote:

Both target the same audience.


How I met Your Mother Targets Late-20s Early 30s.

Big Bang Targets 40+.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:53 am to
HIMYM is lighthearted and fun to me

Big Bang just seems too forced and over researched attempt at nerd humor...
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:54 am
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:53 am to
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Big Bang Targets 40+.


Yeah. All the Star Wars and Avengers references really target the 40+ market.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:54 am to
HIMYM sucks horribly now. Pretty much only use to be good because of of barnacle

Now it's horrible.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:58 am to
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Ted is annoying.

Ted is a fricking sociopath. I used to watch regularly, but his fickle, impulsive, whiny bullshite just got to me after a while. Just pick a woman and go with it, you sadistic fricking pussy.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:00 am to
quote:

How I met Your Mother at least attempts interesting forms of story telling and has some clever humor, even if it over plays it often.


I'll admit I've only seen a handful of BBT episodes, but that appears to be the difference to me. HIMYM attempts different ways of telling stories. For instance, last week the episode told the story from Ted's POV, then Robin's, then Lilly's. Each time, stuff that seemed odd earlier made more sense because the two first people were high and drunk. The episodes of BBT that I have seen seem to just be joke set up-> punch line. It's possible I've just seen all bad episodes.
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:00 am to
HIMYM is more of a chick show that boyfriends and husbands get roped into, then natural affinity develops on the boyfriend/husband side once they get invested in the characters.

Big Bang is a solid show but doesn't have the broad appeal of HIMYM, mainly due to stereotypes around nerd culture. It's a show that has to overcome bias right off the bat to get people to buy in.

Essentially, HIMYM is Friends.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:00 am to
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Yeah. All the Star Wars and Avengers references really target the 40+ market.


Just like it targets Nerds and Smart People because of that?

The nerds and the comic book stuff are just window dressing on what is mostly banal humor and normal 40+ sitcom fare.

If you don't see that, well then, I don't know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 9:01 am
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:02 am to
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HIMYM is more of a chick show that boyfriends and husbands get roped into


That may be the case, but, personally, I don't know any women that watch it.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:04 am to
I don't think laugh track automatically makes something shitty, I actually enjoy Rules of Engagement despite it being pretty formulaic.

I just think BBT sucks and people think its smart because in their sex jokes they use the word coitus
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
37758 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:06 am to
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I'll admit I've only seen a handful of BBT episodes, but that appears to be the difference to me. HIMYM attempts different ways of telling stories. For instance, last week the episode told the story from Ted's POV, then Robin's, then Lilly's. Each time, stuff that seemed odd earlier made more sense because the two first people were high and drunk. The episodes of BBT that I have seen seem to just be joke set up-> punch line. It's possible I've just seen all bad episodes.


BBT has the occasional interesting episode, but their audience doesn't want anything challenging, so they keep it simple. It has some funny moments (I haven't seen all episodes either, but I've seen more than a few).

It's Two and a Half Men with Nerds. Especially now. 90% of the jokes are lame sex jokes. It's always been a very mediocre show, but they used to try to actually make fun of things like Star Wars, but they don't really anymore.

They may be IN a comic book store, but they rarely talk about the comic book store.

Missed Opportunity but it's CBS, to be expected.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 9:06 am
Posted by lpgreat1
Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1510 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:12 am to
I think Big Bang gets hate now because, in my view, it has ascended to a far wider mainstream audience due to syndication. It's on TBS 24/7. My grandparents now talk about how it's the funniest show on TV when, at the time seasons 1-3 were originally airing, not a lot of casual TV viewers were that into the show.

How I Met Your Mother, while also now in syndication, has just never grabbed the casual viewer like Big Bang, Friends, Seinfeld, Raymond or any other widely syndicated show. The hate is the natural backlash to mainstream, which seems to always be a thing to a certain group of people.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:14 am to
quote:

How I Met Your Mother, while also now in syndication, has just never grabbed the casual viewer


quote:

like...Friends


which is good for them, otherwise all the friends viewers would say, 'hey this is the one where they do the same thing friends did, over and over.'
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
37758 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:16 am to
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The hate is the natural backlash to mainstream, which seems to always be a thing to a certain group of people.



It got far less smart than it used to, it relies on sex jokes more often, and it stopped with the REAL references to nerd culture.

They used to make Grand Moff Tarkin jokes, now it's all Leia in a bikini jokes, which have been done better and far more often. It is a vastly different show than it used to be.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:17 am to
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I actually enjoy Rules of Engagement despite it being pretty formulaic.


Me too. I think it's because Patrick Warburton is hilarious. Kate Hudson's brother annoys the shite out of me and it actually bothers me that his character is as dumb as he is. But I can watch Warburton and Megyn Price go back and forth any time.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:25 am to
quote:

It got far less smart than it used to, it relies on sex jokes more often, and it stopped with the REAL references to nerd culture.


In the limited episodes I've seen, it always seems like we're supposed to be laughing at the nerds because they're nerds, not because they're funny. I'm not really a fan of that.

I don't know how nerdy I would consider myself, but I'm at least nerdy enough to post about TV shows on a message board, so a show that is actively making fun of me and people like me is not one that's going to hold my attention for very long.

You can be a nerdy show and not make fun of nerds, you can actually celebrate them if you do it correctly. See Psych, Chuck, and Community (and probably some other shows I haven't seen yet).
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:27 am to
Because HIMYM is a better show even at its worst
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
37758 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:28 am to
quote:

In the limited episodes I've seen, it always seems like we're supposed to be laughing at the nerds because they're nerds, not because they're funny. I'm not really a fan of that.

I don't know how nerdy I would consider myself, but I'm at least nerdy enough to post about TV shows on a message board, so a show that is actively making fun of me and people like me is not one that's going to hold my attention for very long.

You can be a nerdy show and not make fun of nerds, you can actually celebrate them if you do it correctly. See Psych, Chuck, and Community (and probably some other shows I haven't seen yet).


Well said. I know people who watch BBT, the old episodes are ok, but it's not something I seartch out to watch for some of these reasons.

And again, that supports the Target 40+ argument, that they are just making fun of nerd culture rather than celebrating it.
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