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Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:46 am to catch26
On yeah I agree the offense is putrid but the focus on the 2nd and 2 play is misplaced.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 1:04 am to Rickdaddy4188
ha there is a reason a pass os riskier than a run. someone has to throw and catch it.
Mett should have completed it, no question. But it still was the wrong call. They share blame.
Mett should have completed it, no question. But it still was the wrong call. They share blame.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 1:05 am to biglego
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On yeah I agree the offense is putrid but the focus on the 2nd and 2 play is misplaced.
It was a really stupid play call. Nowhere near the only problem in the game, but it's certainly indicative of how utterly baffling the play calling has been all year, and how Miles has coached himself out of a few victories.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 1:14 am to GABlueDog
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I think some on here really want whats best for Les rather than whats best for LSU.
Its actually the complete opposite. People would rather LSU lose so miles will be shown the door.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 1:25 am to dgnx6
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Its actually the complete opposite. People would rather LSU lose so miles will be shown the door.
So you're just telling people what they think now? Cool, I wish I had that sort of super power.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:21 am to dljtigers
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Your the one coming off as ignorant.
Classic
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:22 am to Rickdaddy4188
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During the Bama game , Miles was an idiot for not passing and trying to get the first and now he is an idiot for throwing to get the first down.
20/20 hindsight
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
How do you not see the difference in those 2 situations? Is it that you do not want to see it, or is it that you are that dumb?
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
I think the situations were very different in the 2 games, but my theory is that there is a connection between the Clemson and Bama games. This "whacky" play calling was a knee jerk reaction to not passing in the Bama game to clinch the win and catching hell over it I think.
If we play the odds we pass against a stacked line of scrimmage vs. Bama on 1st down to set up a couple of short yardage plays, and we run against Clemson on 2nd and 3rd down to win the game.
What's infuriating to Tiger fans is the complete lack of logic with which Les calls plays.
We have no offensive identity that we stick with and that's what drives us all crazy. Try a little of this & a little of that.
When you're top rushers in Hill and Ware are averaging 10.3 & 3 yards per rush and you have two downs to pick up 2 yards with less than 2 minutes to go you MUST:
A) pick up the game clinching first down, or
B) Force your opponent to use their precious time outs.
Anythings else is just stupid. A little league coach would do this.
You play the odds.
We've got terrific talent and have flat squandered it of late.
If we play the odds we pass against a stacked line of scrimmage vs. Bama on 1st down to set up a couple of short yardage plays, and we run against Clemson on 2nd and 3rd down to win the game.
What's infuriating to Tiger fans is the complete lack of logic with which Les calls plays.
We have no offensive identity that we stick with and that's what drives us all crazy. Try a little of this & a little of that.
When you're top rushers in Hill and Ware are averaging 10.3 & 3 yards per rush and you have two downs to pick up 2 yards with less than 2 minutes to go you MUST:
A) pick up the game clinching first down, or
B) Force your opponent to use their precious time outs.
Anythings else is just stupid. A little league coach would do this.
You play the odds.
We've got terrific talent and have flat squandered it of late.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:39 am to RealityTiger
in the bama game miles had a qb that was on his game and a bama secondary that was wasnt on theirs. in the clemson game his qb wasnt getting it done with a running back that was. by that time in both games a head coach should have some grasp of the situation and KNOW the right call. miles did the wrong in both.
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Rickdaddy you are a freakin tool. On 2nd and 2, with just over two minutes left in the game, and a beastly RB averaging 10 ypc, you run the damn ball. It's common sense. Quit trying to defend the repetitive dumbass decisions of Miles. He's a great recruiter who get's his players to play hard for him. But face it, he's a terrible gameday coach.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:54 am to GOTIGERS!
"in the bama game miles had a qb that was on his game and a bama secondary that was wasnt on theirs. in the clemson game his qb wasnt getting it done with a running back that was. by that time in both games a head coach should have some grasp of the situation and KNOW the right call. miles did the wrong in both."
This is correct. All the rest is just blah blah blah. I watched all the football on TV and NEVER saw a QB out there for any team from NIU to Carolina's back-up, to Stanford, to Nebraska that looks anything like ours. We have a VERY UNATHLETIC QB who moves under the slighest pressure like an ice truck. He was off! Hill was on! D had played over 90 plays....absolutely exhausted. This is not the NFL and Mett is not Peyton Manning.
A good coach recognizes the situation IN THIS GAME, and honors his DeFense, Special Teams, Asst Coaches, likeable QB and Fans (who have spent much supporitn the program) by making the right call. You shoudln't just do something just because you think you can. You have to analyze the situation continously. Les is the highest paid employee in the Stte of LA. He has shite for brains if he insists those were the right calls in that situation. I'd expect as much out of casual fans and Rantards, but not from someone who learned from Bo. My personal opinion is that Les' judgment was clouded by Mett's struggles. He wants everything to work because he promised a better passing game, Mett is struggling, here is a passing situation with the box stacked, this is a play he SHOULD BE able to excecute, we need to build his confidence, this will clinch the game, let's do it! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. 2nd and 2, tired D, 2 yards, COPELAND, HILL, CLEMENTS, WARE, HILLIARD. The right call is the safe basic one which plays the odds and at the very worst runs clock and burns TO for the other team. Les just doesn't get the small stuff.
This is correct. All the rest is just blah blah blah. I watched all the football on TV and NEVER saw a QB out there for any team from NIU to Carolina's back-up, to Stanford, to Nebraska that looks anything like ours. We have a VERY UNATHLETIC QB who moves under the slighest pressure like an ice truck. He was off! Hill was on! D had played over 90 plays....absolutely exhausted. This is not the NFL and Mett is not Peyton Manning.
A good coach recognizes the situation IN THIS GAME, and honors his DeFense, Special Teams, Asst Coaches, likeable QB and Fans (who have spent much supporitn the program) by making the right call. You shoudln't just do something just because you think you can. You have to analyze the situation continously. Les is the highest paid employee in the Stte of LA. He has shite for brains if he insists those were the right calls in that situation. I'd expect as much out of casual fans and Rantards, but not from someone who learned from Bo. My personal opinion is that Les' judgment was clouded by Mett's struggles. He wants everything to work because he promised a better passing game, Mett is struggling, here is a passing situation with the box stacked, this is a play he SHOULD BE able to excecute, we need to build his confidence, this will clinch the game, let's do it! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. 2nd and 2, tired D, 2 yards, COPELAND, HILL, CLEMENTS, WARE, HILLIARD. The right call is the safe basic one which plays the odds and at the very worst runs clock and burns TO for the other team. Les just doesn't get the small stuff.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:03 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I would have run behind Copeland two times if I were the coach, but there is no denying that th pass on 2nd down was a great play call, because the wr was wide open.
Have you seen Mett attempt a rollout pass this year? It's ugly. Very ugly. Dont call a rollout with a long throw into the flat. Run the ball. 1st down was a good call. 2nd and 2, Hill on fire, Mett struggling, run it twice, get the first, go home. Different than Bama game. 3rd and long, first down wins it, Mett on fire, throw it to win and ice the game.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
Rick daddy you must have "forgotten" the situation in the bama game.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:25 am to themunch
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Rantards have screamed for years for play action on 2nd and short and when we do do it, they scream cuz it did not work out. Ohmy the clock thing. We needed at least one first down there too.
Motherfricking this.
fricking cry baby fans. You bitches expect Mett to complete 25 of 25 passes for 400 yards, then have three backup QBs throw for 100 yards each, and of course have five running backs each rush for 100 yards, and in the same game have our punter have a career game.
frick YOU MOTHERfrickERS.
I'm pissed about the loss, we blew the lead and the game and our coaching staff looks retarded. It's embarrassing that LSU lost to a fricking cartoonish ACC team. But it's college kids playing football not a fricking NASA shuttle launch.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:running up the middle on 3rd and 6 with a QB who has thrown for almost 300 yards and knowing a first down wins the game.
During the Bama game , Miles was an idiot for
quote:When you have a RB sitting on the bench the entire 4th who is avg 10 yards a run, and you are two yards away from almost certain victory, you hand him the ball twice.
They call a great play and get a wide open wr 2 yards past the sticks and our qb makes a bad throw.
It doesn't take an idiot to figure out simple game awareness issues. But it does take one to not realize these things.
Over and over and over and over...
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Miles was an idiot for not passing and trying to get the first and now he is an idiot for throwing to get the first down. Miles will just never get some of our fan's respect. They call a great play and get a wide open wr 2 yards past the sticks and our qb makes a bad throw.
These are 2 different scenarios. In the Bama game, Mett was on fire and was hitting WRs left and right on those quick pass plays. Instead, Miles went with a run up the middle.
In the Clemson game, Mett was pretty bad and the Oline was not giving him any time to throw, but Hill was tearing it up all night - the few times he got carries.
Your post proves that Miles outthinks himself. Besides sticking with what is working well, he assumes the defense will see it coming and he strays away from it. Benching Hill was the worst decision Miles could have made at that point. He is the most consistent RB on the team and I am fully confident he would have picked up 2 yards on 2 downs. It was an unnecessary risk.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
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During the Bama game , Miles was an idiot for not passing and trying to get the first and now he is an idiot for throwing to get the first down.
Miles will just never get some of our fan's respect. They call a great play and get a wide open wr 2 yards past the sticks and our qb makes a bad throw.
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:51 am to TheDoc
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Two completely different situations but I don't expect you to grasp that.
^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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