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This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise.

Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48719 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:04 pm
This franchise got lucky with Brees and Payton. Thank the Lord they did. I'm thankful for that.

But, other than getting lucky with these two great men, this franchise has never had all of the pieces needed to win playoff games consistently in the NFL. This has been a mediocre franchise, overall, in its long history.

Do the Saints have what it takes to turn it around in 2013?

Based on what we have seen all year and especially today, you have to doubt that the Saints are going to be good enough to make it to the SB in 2013. The defense is epically bad. No offense in the NFL is good enough to overcome the D.

This front office has had years to do something to improve the D. It's only gotten worse.

As of today, the Saints Defense could not be any worse if they were selected by and coached by Atl Falcons coaches and fans.

I don't expect the D to be a whole lot better in 2013. It's not realistic to expect years of bad defense to suddenly become good in one offseason, when all it has done over the years is get worse.

Payton knows nothing about building a roster on Defense, and neither does Loomis. Nobody in the Saints FO knows how to build a D roster, and, that's why the FO needs to hire a Consultant to aid Payton and Loomis in building a D roster.

This franchise is not winning another SB if they stick with the current group of idiots whose job it is to build a Defense and a roster for a Defense.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28925 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:05 pm to
Damn
Posted by TigerInAnnArbor
Ann Arbor, Mi
Member since May 2009
1490 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:05 pm to
It's "Peyton."
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:06 pm to
ERRMAGASH


dude what the frick. you realize the saints have had worser seasons of late and bounced back better than ever the following?

you people digust me.
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 3:07 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

This franchise is not winning another SB if they stick with the current group of idiots whose job it is to build a Defense and a roster for a Defense.
You just don't get it, the defense has gotten better...or some shite like that
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49541 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:07 pm to


quote:

But, other than getting lucky with these two great men, this franchise has never had all of the pieces needed to win playoff games consistently in the NFL.


You kind of have to win playoff games consistently if you win a SB.
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:16 pm to
Truly.

Truly. Truly.

DATTY-worthy.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127601 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:23 pm to
People need to realize that the Bucs once won a superbowl. Then they went back to being a dumpsterfire. There is nothing wrong with the OP.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to
There aren't enough synonyms of the word stupid to describe the OP. you could say the pats were lucky to get belichick and Brady. If this, if that. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Posted by Supernova
Member since Jan 2012
2645 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to
There is a lot of trash on that defense. It has been like this since the Dome Patrol ended. These assholes on defense cost this team at least two more Super Bowls.
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

This is a bad football team


This is a bad defense but not a completely bad football team.

quote:

a mediocre franchise


History bears this out. Can't argue with this one.

Posted by Supernova
Member since Jan 2012
2645 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:30 pm to
Also I want to add. Brees has been shite this season. Not all the blame goes on the defense.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

This is a bad thread and a retard came up with the commentary.

Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:35 pm to
I disagree somewhat.

This is a poor team this year but a solid franchise moving forward .

You way overrate the Saints history before Payton/Brees.

It was a horrific team with a dismal history. The Saints were voted at one time the worst professional team of any kind in history. The franchise was close to crumbling and could have easily moved.

Today's operation is worlds better.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66531 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:36 pm to
dude shut the frick up
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66602 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:39 pm to
Hey Champagne.

Name me one other team or coach with more wins than Payton in the same time span.

I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32617 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:42 pm to
you are a dumb frick. That simple
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
21018 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Payton knows nothing about building a roster on Defense, and neither does Loomis. Nobody in the Saints FO knows how to build a D roster, and, that's why the FO needs to hire a Consultant to aid Payton and Loomis in building a D roster.


So bringing in Sharper and Vilma wasn't a brilliant move?
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25323 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:58 pm to
Jazzyjeff?
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1279 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:14 pm to
You're fat, saggy vagina is showing.
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