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re: One of the reason's LSU Basketball used to be "awesome baby"
Posted on 12/23/12 at 7:39 pm to basiletiger
Posted on 12/23/12 at 7:39 pm to basiletiger
The upset of #1 ranked zona in the pmac was the best LSU sporting event I have ever been to.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 7:44 pm to LockdownDefense
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I disagree. I loved the '81 squad, but I think the 90-91 squad is the most talented team
I didn't say the most talented....I said the best.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 8:09 pm to Tiger Ugly
Right on. Then the 90-91 team was the best.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 8:28 pm to basiletiger
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Attendance was extremely high in that Sweet 16 year when those guys lost to Wisconsin in the Tourney.
It was pretty empty until about mid-way through the season. Same goes for the 06 season.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 8:41 pm to basiletiger
Winning will bring our fans
Posted on 12/23/12 at 9:11 pm to Tiger Ugly
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I don't think you'll ever see it likes of the type of enthusiasm basketball conjured again. College hoops is a different game now and there's so much more to do these days for the general public, not to mention college baseball is so popular here now. It wasn't then and still isn't at most schools.
Disagree completely. LSU (as are fans of just about every other school) are fairweather fans who will support their team when they're winning. All it will take to see the PMAC filled again is a consistent NCAAT team + scheduling big time non-conf games in Nov. and Dec. If that happens, LSU will be a "basketball" school again. Baseball will fall back to being the #3 draw on campus simply by virtue of the fact that the vast majority of the country couldn't care less about college baseball. If football ever goes through some "lean years" in the future, you'll see TS 3/4 of the way full just like it was in the early 90's.
It's just they way it is (not just specific to LSU) Win consistently and the people will come. If you don't, folks will find other things to do.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 9:55 pm to makinskrilla
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The upset of #1 ranked zona in the pmac was the best LSU sporting event I have ever been to.
Was that the night Brady and Dick Vitale had Santa hats on after the game. The Pmac was rocking that night, nothing better than the pmac rocking like that.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 10:24 pm to biglego
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I think overall there's less excitement for the game of basketball around here. Everything is all about football and disposable income will be devoted to football. The Hornets don't draw either even when the team was playoff contender.
This is it.
The only time people will show up is if an all-world level player is playing his one and done season with LSU, and even then it's just so people can try to be cool and say they were there.
People in Louisiana know frick-all about basketball.
I can sum "LSU basketball fan" in one anecdote.
I went to the Shaq book signing at Barnes & Noble last year. The guy in front of me was talking about how awesome it was to go watch "Shaq, Chris Jackson, all those guys."
I mentioned that there were few legitimate NBA big men that came through LSU since... Stromile Swift, Tyrus Thomas, Glen Davis.
"Yeah, I hadn't really heard of those guys. But, man Shaq was something, huh?"
Posted on 12/23/12 at 11:22 pm to Alt26
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All it will take to see the PMAC filled again is a consistent NCAAT team + scheduling big time non-conf games in Nov. and Dec. If that happens, LSU will be a "basketball" school again. Baseball will fall back to being the #3 draw on campus simply by virtue of the fact that the vast majority of the country couldn't care less about college baseball. If football ever goes through some "lean years" in the future, you'll see TS 3/4 of the way full just like it was in the early 90's
I just don't see that happening Alt. Can we get a bigger core group of fans interested and going regularly and maybe fill the place a couple of times a year. I think so.
Get 10+K in the building for every game, even the BS OOC games again. I think those days are gone forever. The landscape is just so different on so many levels.
Posted on 12/23/12 at 11:26 pm to Sheep
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I went to the Shaq book signing at Barnes & Noble last year. The guy in front of me was talking about how awesome it was to go watch "Shaq, Chris Jackson, all those guys."
I mentioned that there were few legitimate NBA big men that came through LSU since... Stromile Swift, Tyrus Thomas, Glen Davis.
"Yeah, I hadn't really heard of those guys. But, man Shaq was something, huh?"
I got another one for you. Shaq's senior year we won a big game on the road in Tuscaloosa. I was pretty fired up about it an turned on the radio to some local sports talk to hear some talk about it.
Steve Myers and J.R. Ball had a Tiger Rag radio show back in the day and all the calls but one for 3 hours was about football recruiting. And Curley Hallman was the coach and we sucked for gosh sakes.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 12:07 am to Tiger Ugly
Basketball is about excitement, more than winning, at LSU right now.
We don't need a top-ranked team, we need... a Dale Brown-like event. Something like a good team coming in, and Johnny pumping up the fanbase to come out and make a difference in the PMAC. And if/when that occurs, for the team to play over its' heads, win or lose, against said opponent. And for Johnny to sell to the media etc afterwards how much the crowd meant to that effort (especially if we can win).
Look at the snowball effect that happened with baseball. Once fans started believing that a loaded Box meant LSU could compete with anybody, the crowds grew, and more players wanted to play in that environment.
Johnny needs to do the same. Sell that it's not just his five on the court, it's all of us in the arena against the Kentucky's of the world. You get the average guy on the street to think his going and yelling makes a difference (and the coach kissing his arse saying it does), and the Deaf Dome can return. Once it does, kids will want to play there again.
We don't need a top-ranked team, we need... a Dale Brown-like event. Something like a good team coming in, and Johnny pumping up the fanbase to come out and make a difference in the PMAC. And if/when that occurs, for the team to play over its' heads, win or lose, against said opponent. And for Johnny to sell to the media etc afterwards how much the crowd meant to that effort (especially if we can win).
Look at the snowball effect that happened with baseball. Once fans started believing that a loaded Box meant LSU could compete with anybody, the crowds grew, and more players wanted to play in that environment.
Johnny needs to do the same. Sell that it's not just his five on the court, it's all of us in the arena against the Kentucky's of the world. You get the average guy on the street to think his going and yelling makes a difference (and the coach kissing his arse saying it does), and the Deaf Dome can return. Once it does, kids will want to play there again.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 8:54 am to LaBR4
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saw this clip on the side.. this court was great.. 1990 court design Purple everywhere midcourt SEC logo
I don't know if I ever noticed before how jacked up the LSU letters were on the baselines. I can't quite figure out what went so wrong when they were being painted.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 9:35 am to ApexTiger
I was about to say Chris Jackson......until I watched the video.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 10:13 am to Tiger Ugly
I got another one for u.
'Shaq's senior year...'.
He was playing in the NBA.
'Shaq's senior year...'.
He was playing in the NBA.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 10:47 am to makinskrilla
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The upset of #1 ranked zona in the pmac was the best LSU sporting event I have ever been to.
I was 12 and it was the greatest weekend at LSU I ever had. Stayed in the same hotel as zona and got lute olsen's(sp?) autograph on the elevator.....then got shaq and most of the teams autograph at the PMAC. btw Kareem was there working with shaq, got to shake his hand and talk a little.
Talk about exciting for middle school kid that loved basketball!!!
Posted on 12/24/12 at 11:31 am to ApexTiger
Shaq was a taller bigger better faster stronger Dwight Howard back then.
I was at the Mcneese St game when he leaped completely over their 6'10" center and dunked it with a one handed slam
I was at the Mcneese St game when he leaped completely over their 6'10" center and dunked it with a one handed slam
Posted on 12/24/12 at 11:41 am to Tiger Ugly
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I got another one for you. Shaq's senior year we won a big game on the road in Tuscaloosa.
That's a good one. Got any stories about chris jackson's junior year? You probably shouldn't make fun of people about this type stuff anymore.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 7:34 pm to TimeAndTide
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Oh, sure, that team was loaded with talent. But as a basketball team, there's no question that the '80-'81 team had it all.
It's also a bit unfair to say that they didn't meet expectations in the postseason. When your All-American breaks a finger on his shooting hand while clinching a Final Four berth, that's a pretty big hurdle to get over.
This. The most exciting LSU basketball team I can remember. Rudy, Astronaut, The Jet, Cookieman, Ethan E. I was in the 'Dome when they beat Wichita State and went to the Final Four. It was also the night Rudy broke his fricking finger. That did it. And forever frick Bobby Knight. He was lucky.
Posted on 12/29/12 at 10:36 pm to Scoob
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Basketball is about excitement, more than winning, at LSU right now.
As far as attracting crowds I agree. Heck the only time they wake up is when Tuba does something.
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We don't need a top-ranked team, we need... a Dale Brown-like event. Something like a good team coming in, and Johnny pumping up the fanbase to come out and make a difference in the PMAC
Johnny's not Dale. He may drop a Tiger from the rafters when we play Kentucky, but alot of the other stuff Dale brought was like a reality show man...Johnny ain't gonna do that.
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Look at the snowball effect that happened with baseball. Once fans started believing that a loaded Box meant LSU could compete with anybody, the crowds grew, and more players wanted to play in that environment.
IMHO the Box is the way it is because LSU became the best baseball program in the country, without question.
The landscape is different today on so many levels. College basketball is different.
I think even if Johnny can do what Dale did as far as winning and fielding exciting teams you won't see the consistent crowds we once had,
Now if he starts winning consistently over an extended period like Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Mich. St....and LSU baseball..which for Dale's unprecedented success he did not quite reach that level, then yes I think you'd start seeing the building packed like those guys pack it despite the changed landscape. Such success would change that landscape.
But LSU has never been that in basketball. And I love it as much as anyone.
And dred24 you got me...I knew better. Meant to say last year for Shaq not senior year. Oh well.
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