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re: Outside of QB, who has the better roster: Saints or 49ers?

Posted on 8/19/12 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 2:51 pm to
I would not call the saints fan base bangwagoners, but i don't think they are any different than any other fan base either like they try to pretend. I remember how often they had to get bailed out by a local business at the deadline to avoid a blackout all the time in the late 90's and early 2000's. They didn't start selling out the stadium with season ticket holders until 06.
This post was edited on 8/19/12 at 2:55 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 2:53 pm to
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I'm a Saints fan and love the Saints, but my vote here goes to the Packers fans or Steelers fans.


must be really hard to keep fans while constantly winning
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 2:59 pm to
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must be really hard to keep fans while constantly winning


even when losing there fanbase is large and devout. I love love the Saints but would give the nod to these 2 fanbases for devotion..
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36445 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 3:01 pm to
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even when losing there fanbase is large and devout. I love love the Saints but would give the nod to these 2 fanbases for devotion..


Agreed, but very few if any teams are as embedded in the local culture of their city as the Saints
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 3:05 pm to
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Agreed, but very few if any teams are as embedded in the local culture of their city as the Saints



definitely agree with that as well. Point taken.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10854 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 3:10 pm to
Oh men are talking I might have to leave because yall are just to old for me, I should just go and let you keep telling yourself the Saints have the most loyal fans
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36445 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 3:19 pm to
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Oh men are talking I might have to leave because yall are just to old for me, I should just go and let you keep telling yourself the Saints have the most loyal fans


we'll send you a postcard from the playoffs
Posted by wope
Member since Aug 2011
5682 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:00 pm to
lol, this fricking guy here
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:04 pm to
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even when losing there fanbase is large and devout. I love love the Saints but would give the nod to these 2 fanbases for devotion..


They RARELY have bad seasons.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:06 pm to
So you liked them during their prime. You or most other niners fans on here have no business calling any saint bandwagon fans. And you can be a fan of who you want. I realize you don't have to be a saints fan if you live in la, but the fact that you started liking the niners during their heyday and you call out saints fans for being bandwagon makes me laugh. If you were a fan of the rams or browns or chargers or whoever I wouldn't say anything. And actually I wouldn't say anything if you were a cowboys fan. I realize several people in NW la are cowboys fans for geographic reasons.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:16 pm to
Pack hasn't always won. Keep in mind that the first time they won the Kfc central was 1972 and the second was 1995. They also only went to the playoffs once in the 70s and once in the 80s so they have had their tough times but kept their fans.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33769 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:18 pm to
Wow. This thread is still going

keep up the good work
This post was edited on 8/19/12 at 4:21 pm
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:20 pm to
Its basically just saints and niners fans bitching at each other
Posted by lsu0309
Mexico
Member since May 2006
101 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:22 pm to
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If you were a fan of the rams or browns or chargers or whoever I wouldn't say anything. And actually I wouldn't say anything if you were a cowboys fan. I realize several people in NW la are cowboys fans for geographic reasons.

You won't say anything but it makes you laugh apparently because you said:
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I just find it laughable that any Louisianian will be an lsu fan but not a saints one.

So not real sure what exactly you realize.
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So you liked them during their prime. You or most other niners fans on here have no business calling any saint bandwagon fans. And you can be a fan of who you want. I realize you don't have to be a saints fan if you live in la, but the fact that you started liking the niners during their heyday and you call out saints fans for being bandwagon makes me laug

Well actually I began liking the 49ers when I began to become interested in the NFL when I was very young. Now if I was a bandwagon fan, as you insinuate, wouldn't I have left them to cheer for the multiple other Super Bowl winners over the last 25 years. Especially during the 95-2010 stretch where we were pretty much horrible minus a few good teams sprinkled in. I think I had plenty of opportunity over the last 25 years to jump on one.
For arguments sake, let's say a a child between ages 6-9 lives in Arizona in the year 2010. His father is a huge Saints fan and has been for a long time for whatever reason. The child happens to begin taking an interest in the NFL that season and cheers for the Saints along with his father. The saints win a super bowl that year . Fast forward 30 years, the saints have had up nd down years since but no championships. The now man still resides in Ari. but is still an extremely loyal Saints fan, never wavering in his commitment to the team. Is that man a bandwagon fan due the team winning a Super Bowl the year when he became a fan as a child or is he a true fan because he stuck with them the throughout the years no matter how they performed?
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:47 pm to
I don't think that scenario really matches yours considering the niners were the most or one of the most popular teams in the NFL up until it seems you were about 15 or so. In that scenario the saints never win again while the niners have won a few titles since you started liking them. Ill give you props for sticking with them, but the fact remains you jumped on the bandwagon earlier. I find that amusing considering you and others accuse some saints fans of only liking the saints since they have been good when you and the others started liking the niners for the same reason.

I just can't fathom someone from la liking another team unless they have some sort of reason like they have lived in another place etc. I don't consider Joe Montana being catholic a reason for liking the niners.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13989 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 6:02 pm to
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Its basically just saints and niners fans bitching at each other
Posted by lsu0309
Mexico
Member since May 2006
101 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 7:07 pm to
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I don't think that scenario really matches yours considering the niners were the most or one of the most popular teams in the NFL up until it seems you were about 15 or so. In that scenario the saints never win again while the niners have won a few titles since you started liking them. Ill give you props for sticking with them, but the fact remains you jumped on the bandwagon earlier. I find that amusing considering you and others accuse some saints fans of only liking the saints since they have been good when you and the others started liking the niners for the same reason.

How so? Ok, Give the Saints a couple of SB wins and now answer the question. The popularity part is not relevant because my reasons were based on a sole influence at a much younger age not popular opinion of football teams. As for the bandwagon stuff for Saints fans, there are definitely many but I never said y'all all where. Everyone kept posting about the loyalty and dedication so posted the sellout info. I say that there werent many fans outside of Nola because I witnessed the change in support that happened while living between N and S La the past 7 years so. Also never said I like the Niners because they were good back then, that is what you assume. I became a fan because family influence. At that age and knowledge of professional football, I can't imagine
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I just can't fathom someone from la liking another team unless they have some sort of reason like they have lived in another place etc. I don't consider Joe Montana being catholic a reason for liking the niners.
But... but....
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If you were a fan of the rams or browns or chargers or whoever I wouldn't say anything. And actually I wouldn't say anything if you were a cowboys fan. I realize several people in NW la are cowboys fans for geographic reasons.

You need to stop making contradicting statements or just let it go. As to Joe him being an Italian catholic that went to ND gave him a respect you wouldn't believe from older catholic Italian football fans. Hard to explain but old school Italians loved them some ND. I dont know if my grandfather liked them before they drafted Montana in I believe 79 but know he did after. People like things for their own reasons, whether you consider those reasons to be valid or not. A family influence led me to the Niners nothing more or less, if I was to bandwagon I would have jumped on yalls or the Boys when they were dominating the early 90's. It's whatever though, I will be on this 49er "bandwagon" for the rest of my days I can assure you
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:44 pm to
Wasn't a contradicting statement. I said I wouldn't say anything if you were a fan of one of those other teams. I didn't say I'd understand it. The only one I somewhat get is the cowboys fans from the northwest.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71536 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:45 pm to
Can we all just get back to making fun of the guy saying NOLA has a better defensive line than the 49ers? That was fun.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:48 pm to
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I would not call the saints fan base bangwagoners


people still do this? that's fricking pathetic. saints fan don't have to prove their fricking fanhood. they are probably the most loyal fans on the planet. i got pics of me as a child in the superdome. my entire family is from new orleans and have always watched saints football.

pretty weak if anyone is claiming bandwagon at this point.. and there is nothing wrong with the gulf coast region getting behind the saints after katrina. yes it's nice to have been a fan thru an thru but it's also nice to grow.
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