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re: 1969 tigers no bowl??
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:16 am to LCTigers69
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:16 am to LCTigers69
LCT, that's exactly what happened. I still wake up in a cold sweat some mornings when I think about it. ND needed money to build their twin mini-domes on campus - Cotton Bowl money got that project done. The Cotton Bowl would have taken them at 5-5, it's gross. 1969 Tigers one of the best ever - This is true because I got it from an undisclosed source.
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:23 am to LCTigers69
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LSU lobbied for the Sugar Bowl. However, the Sugar Bowl selected Ole Miss over LSU. Yes, Manning had beaten LSU, but Ole Miss had 3 losses that '69 season.
Needless to say, bad feelings between LSU and the Sugar and Cotton Bowls lingered for many years.
Sugar came to LSU before they came to Ole Miss in 1969. LSU said no ,thinking they'd get the Cotton.
For all of the 'Sugar Bowl screwed LSU' stuff, how do you explain two years earlier after the 1967 season the Sugar inviting a 6-3-1 LSU team who was actually awarded and accepted the bid before the last game?
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:37 am to I-59 Tiger
Bottom line:
The COTTON BOWL screwed LSU.
The COTTON BOWL screwed LSU.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:56 am to mtsu
frick notre dame
thread\
thread\
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:04 am to dukke v
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Also after the 1977 season Nd beat #1 Texas again in the 1978 Cotton Bowl.Which gave Bama the NC if I am not mistaken. A split with USC I think
No, Notre Dame jumped all the way from #5 into the top spot after winning that game. Alabama finished #2 or #3, I think.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:04 am to I-59 Tiger
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For all of the 'Sugar Bowl screwed LSU' stuff, how do you explain two years earlier after the 1967 season the Sugar inviting a 6-3-1 LSU team who was actually awarded and accepted the bid before the last game?
1) because the last game was the Greenies?
2) They were deperate that year (vs Wyoming!)?
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:07 am to bdnc
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It was Cholly MC's best team
Agree...IMO, will go down as one of the top 5 LSU football teams of all time. If I recall correctly, that team's D was off the charts statistically with something like only giving up 550 yards rushing all year.
Top 5 of all time...
5. 1958
4. 2007
3. 1969
2. 2011
1. 2003
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:07 am to MetryTyger
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That LSU team could have beaten Penn State and John Cappeletti in the Orange
John Cappeletti wasn't on that team. He was on the 1973 Penn State team that beat LSU in the Orange Bowl.
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or Texas and James Street in the Cotton for the NC.
NC was not a possibility for us. Also, it took Charley Mac many years to figure out how to defend against the wishbone. Alabama adopted it in 1971 or 1972, and we didn't learn how to stop it until, arguably, 1979. We'll never know if LSU would have beaten Texas, but it was far from a given.
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Notre Dame did not deserve to go over LSU - they were ranked lower than LSU and had a worse record.
That is the only thing that we have a legitimate beef about, but back then bowl games were more about attendance and national appeal and less about quality. So, basically, the same as they are now.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:08 am to Nuts4LSU
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No, Notre Dame jumped all the way from #5 into the top spot after winning that game. Alabama finished #2 or #3, I think.
Yup. Had the years mixed up. Bama and USC shared the title in 1979. I think in 1979 Sugar Bowl Bama beat Ohio St. like 35-6 and finished 2nd in the polls.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:30 am to Iam4LSUnTN
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Iam4LSUnTN
1969 tigers no bowl??
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It was Cholly MC's best team
Agree...IMO, will go down as one of the top 5 LSU football teams of all time. If I recall correctly, that team's D was off the charts statistically with something like only giving up 550 yards rushing all year.
Top 5 of all time...
5. 1958
4. 2007
3. 1969
2. 2011
1. 2003
Actually 39.6 yards per game (NCAA Record), so we actually only gave up 396 yards rushing the WHOLE SEASON.......
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:50 am to mtsu
The 1969 team set the bar for LSU defenses. There were games when the other team had minus yards rushing. The DL was absolutely relentless and overpowering in TS.
I was 12 and attended every home game. The one specific vivid memory I have is of the hit by Casanova on Musso. I had a real clear view of it and it was one of the hardest hitting picture perfect tackles you'll ever see. Then seeing Musso slow to get up and then falling down running to the sidelines. I don't think there's ever been a bigger roar in TS and I've been there for nearly all the games since then.
I was 12 and attended every home game. The one specific vivid memory I have is of the hit by Casanova on Musso. I had a real clear view of it and it was one of the hardest hitting picture perfect tackles you'll ever see. Then seeing Musso slow to get up and then falling down running to the sidelines. I don't think there's ever been a bigger roar in TS and I've been there for nearly all the games since then.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:51 am to LSUDonMCO
It was a given that LSU would be playing #1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl....That was until notre dame lifted their self-imposed bowl ban after the last game of the season. Remember, there was no BCS or bowl-league affiliations then (save the Rose Bowl and the Cotton with the SWC champ). No two ways around it, back then an inferior notre dame team was still a way better draw than LSU. notre dame accepted the Cotton Bowl bid later than what was the usual norm at the time, thus leaving LSU out in the cold with the other two major Bowl Games at the time, the Sugar and Orange...The Rose was soley a Big-10/Pac-8 gig.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:04 pm to dukke v
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Yup. Had the years mixed up. Bama and USC shared the title in 1979. I think in 1979 Sugar Bowl Bama beat Ohio St. like 35-6 and finished 2nd in the polls.
Stop !!
Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:33 pm to LSU GrandDad
Greetings Grandad! I was there also and remember the bitterness of that time. Do you remember a whimsical write-in campaign to get a game between LSU and Ohio State for our own Bowl Game? There was an uproar that year because of our record and getting left out of a meaningful Bowl and Ohio State going 9-1 and not going to a bowl game. That game would have been a stem winder!!
Posted on 7/24/12 at 1:18 pm to mtsu
Cholly Mac thought he had a deal worked out with the Cotton Bowl, so he turned down a deal with the Sugar. He never followed up with the Cotton Bowl during the latter part of the '69 season and after the Tulane game he contacted the Cotton reps and was informed that ND would be playing Texas after a 25-year bowl ban. Mac then tried to get deal with the Sugar, but they had already committed to Ole Miss. As a last resort the Liberty Bowl contacted LSU to play Colorado , but the team voted not to play because they felt they deserved a more prestigous bowl (...and they were right).
Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:27 pm to mtsu
...that was the last minute Notre Dame decided to do Bowls year , wasn't it ? Screwed LSU as i recall ...
Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:51 pm to bearhc
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This was Mac's finest team that could have won the national championship. There was a gentlemen's agreement that LSU would play Texas for the national championship in the Cotton Bowl.
This is not true. For 1, Nixon awarded the "national championship" trophy to Tx after they beat Arkie 15-14 in the last game of the season. Also, the Final Top 20 was: 1.Texas 2.Penn State 3.USC 4.Ohio State 5.Notre Dame 6.Missouri 7.Arkansas 8.Mississippi 9.Michigan 10.UCLA 11.Nebraska 12.Houston 13.LSU 14.Florida 15.Tennessee 16.Colorado 17.West Virginia 18.Purdue 19.Stanford and 20.Auburn.
Joe Pa had Child Molester U's first undefeated season that year and they were the ones that really got screwed [pardon the pun]. USC was 10-0-1.
If we had beaten Texas in the Cotton Bowl, Penn State would have been No. 1 in the final AP poll.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:22 pm to mtsu
'69 Tigers were one of our greatest teams ever; the defense was unreal and we were led by a real under rated QB by the name of MIKE HILLMAN, a lefty.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:15 pm to Chill Pill
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Nixon awarded the "national championship" trophy to Tx after they beat Arkie 15-14 in the last game of the season.
Depends on what you mean by national championship. He basically had a plaque made and declared the winner national champion. The AP didn't award until after the bowls, but as long a TX won out, they were going to get it anyway. TX and Ark were 1/2 after Michigan beat undefeated Ohio State
on 11/22/69. Penn State's also went undefeated in 1968 (11-0 and also Orange Bowl champs). At the end of 69 they hadn't lost (1 tie to FSU in the 67 Gator Bowl) in 30 games. The were independent and the Boise St of their day (except their huge fan base made them appealing to Bowls).
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:38 pm to bishop
Notre Dame's schedule wasn't all that hot but they...
Tied #4 USC (10-0-1)
and only lost to consensus #1 Texas by 4 points in the bowl game.
So it's not like they weren't any good and didn't deserve to play.
Tied #4 USC (10-0-1)
and only lost to consensus #1 Texas by 4 points in the bowl game.
So it's not like they weren't any good and didn't deserve to play.
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