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Two schools of thought this year with the BCS
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:51 pm
1. The two best teams are playing in the NCG
2. The two 'best' teams already played, how do we know OSU et.al. aren't the best.
which are you?
2. The two 'best' teams already played, how do we know OSU et.al. aren't the best.
which are you?
This post was edited on 12/22/11 at 9:53 pm
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Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:58 pm to DArbonneDuke
quote:this. eyeball test is bullshite and bama had their shot.
2. The two best teams already played, how do we know OSU et.al. aren't the best.
the world swore up and down that Michigan/Ohio State were CLEARLY the best two teams in the nation after they played to a virtual standoff in 2006 and then UF ripped 15 new assholes in buckeye.
It came off as such a fix too. Okie St dominating Oklahoma and Va Tech losing to Clemson were the only two things that had to happen for Okie to have a shot and neither one were out of the realm of possibility but ESPN spent a week saying that it didn't matter. They turned gameday into a Saban/Bama infomercial and we still ended up with the closest 2/3 finish in BCS history. If they had acknowledged that Okie St had a shot from the get go then i think enough votes would have swung their way to get them into the title game.
but we'll beat the dog frick outta bama anyways so sa la vie bitches.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:14 pm to DArbonneDuke
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Okie Stat had their chance also. They chose to loose to a 4 TD underdog. The goal of the BS is to match the two best tams up at the end of the year. LSU is clearly the best up to this point. Then who is next is the question. Alabama, Okie State,or Stanford was your choices. Alabama hands down is the best of these three teams.
Okie Stat had their chance also. They chose to loose to a 4 TD underdog. The goal of the BS is to match the two best tams up at the end of the year. LSU is clearly the best up to this point. Then who is next is the question. Alabama, Okie State,or Stanford was your choices. Alabama hands down is the best of these three teams.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:55 pm to DArbonneDuke
This is simple shite. Put your "well, it just bothers me" emotions to the side (if that applies)...
1) Everyone knew the rules all along. Gundy has stated this all along also. If he is not complaining, why should anyone else?
2) The for majority of people really do think Bama is better than Ok State.
3) Ok State lost to a far-less-than-impressive Iowa State team. That is a huge dent in any claim to be a legit top-5 or top-10 team, much less a top-2 team. Gundy admits they lost the control of their own destiny when THEY lost this game.
Bama is undefeated in regulation. We made it in 2007 with 2 OT losses, whereas they are given a chance with 1 OT loss, not to Kentucky or Arkansas, but to the undefeated consensus best team in the country.
This is some simple shite.
1) Everyone knew the rules all along. Gundy has stated this all along also. If he is not complaining, why should anyone else?
2) The for majority of people really do think Bama is better than Ok State.
3) Ok State lost to a far-less-than-impressive Iowa State team. That is a huge dent in any claim to be a legit top-5 or top-10 team, much less a top-2 team. Gundy admits they lost the control of their own destiny when THEY lost this game.
Bama is undefeated in regulation. We made it in 2007 with 2 OT losses, whereas they are given a chance with 1 OT loss, not to Kentucky or Arkansas, but to the undefeated consensus best team in the country.
This is some simple shite.
This post was edited on 12/22/11 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 12/23/11 at 12:15 am to DArbonneDuke
I am somewhat #2.
But lately I am in camp #3
The nation is scared of and respects LSU so much that rather than play someone that would lose by 30 they would rather sacrifice a team that already knows what it's like to lose to LSU.
But lately I am in camp #3
The nation is scared of and respects LSU so much that rather than play someone that would lose by 30 they would rather sacrifice a team that already knows what it's like to lose to LSU.
Posted on 12/23/11 at 12:47 am to DArbonneDuke
It's pretty simple.. #2
Ok. State played a much better schedule than bama.
Ok. State has a better record than bama with a division championship.
Ok. state has not already lost to LSU.
Gundy is not complaining because he's not used to this level of success. a BCS bowl is a BCS bowl to him..
Ok. State played a much better schedule than bama.
Ok. State has a better record than bama with a division championship.
Ok. state has not already lost to LSU.
Gundy is not complaining because he's not used to this level of success. a BCS bowl is a BCS bowl to him..
Posted on 12/23/11 at 12:52 am to DArbonneDuke
There is no way to know definitively who the #2 team is:
My criteria would be the following:
1- Stregnth of schedule
2- Quality wins
3- Conference Champs?
Unfortunately that was all thrown away in lieu of the eyeball test.
The College champ of Alabama with victories over R Kansas, Penn St and Auburn have been declared worthy of the NCG.
My criteria would be the following:
1- Stregnth of schedule
2- Quality wins
3- Conference Champs?
Unfortunately that was all thrown away in lieu of the eyeball test.
The College champ of Alabama with victories over R Kansas, Penn St and Auburn have been declared worthy of the NCG.
Posted on 12/23/11 at 1:07 am to DArbonneDuke
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Posted on 12/23/11 at 8:38 am to DArbonneDuke
quote:
The two 'best' teams already played, how do we know OSU et.al. aren't the best.
Posted on 12/23/11 at 9:21 am to DArbonneDuke
1. The two best teams already played and LSU won. Alabama lost their chance at number 1.
2. I can hear all of ESPN experts now, after LSU beats Alabama.."Well we don't know LSU is the best team because they didn't play Oklahoma State"
That's why I didn't want a rematch. LSU deserved a shot to beat both Bama and Oklahoma State.
2. I can hear all of ESPN experts now, after LSU beats Alabama.."Well we don't know LSU is the best team because they didn't play Oklahoma State"
That's why I didn't want a rematch. LSU deserved a shot to beat both Bama and Oklahoma State.
Posted on 12/23/11 at 11:16 am to DArbonneDuke
quote:
The two best teams are playing in the NCG
Posted on 12/23/11 at 11:37 am to DArbonneDuke
OSU is clearly not the 2nd best team because they lost to a (6-6) Iowa State team on the road by 3pts. If they would have won that game by 3pts, they would CLEARLY be the 2nd best team in the country.
Posted on 12/23/11 at 12:19 pm to DArbonneDuke
...I'm wit' how do we know OSU isn't as good ... they can say , "Hey, LSU and 'Bama didn't have to play us, did they ? " The so-called "eyeball test" is totally bogus.... BCSMNC game is a 1 game shot after 6 weeks off ... anybody could win ... 
Posted on 12/23/11 at 2:39 pm to DArbonneDuke
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2. The two 'best' teams already played, how do we know OSU et.al. aren't the best.
I am kind of in this camp.
I think LSU should only play a conference champion (conference champions have to win a tournament to be considered #1 in their conference). Also just picking two teams from one division just ignores everyone else in the country based off of subjective analysis.
Also the fact that the outlines of the BCS was known before the season is a dumb argument. OSU was ranked second by TE most objective part of the system (the computers).
Regardless LSU is going to beat the gumps again.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 9:39 am to DArbonneDuke
The BEST team is playing in the title game. As for the second best team, its debateable, to include Bama in the statment of the two best teams does not sit well with me. They have rode our coattail all the way to the title game. The debate is over who should be playing LSU. Another conference champion is more deserving. 
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