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Seeking Clarity on Russell Shepard Situation
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:19 am
I know I'll be slaughtered for this, but is RS suspended indefinitely and what exactly is the timeline? Has LSU appealed and is waiting on a decision?
I keep hearing so many conflicting reports, anything from 2-6 game to the whole season.
This also seems beyond absurd of the NCAA to hold him hostage over speaking to another player.
I'll take my lumps for not knowing, but any insight would be appreciated.
I keep hearing so many conflicting reports, anything from 2-6 game to the whole season.
This also seems beyond absurd of the NCAA to hold him hostage over speaking to another player.
I'll take my lumps for not knowing, but any insight would be appreciated.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 9:24 am
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:23 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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This also seems beyond absurd to hold of the NCAA to hold him hostage over speaking to another player.
Totally agree. They let Ohio State play in the Sugar Bowl after all the shite they did and Shep gets suspended for talking to his cousin about his inquiry. Doesn't seem right.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:24 am to Roach
Tng to flex thweir muscle...
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:25 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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I keep hearing so many conflicting reports, anything from 2-6 game to the whole season.
This also seems beyond absurd to hold of the NCAA to hold him hostage over speaking to another player.
i think a problem may have been the timing of reporting his possible infraction. it was kind of late
i may be wrong about that
the NCAA has to investigate and determine his eligibility. prior to that, if we play him, we risk forfeiting games. i have a feeling the NCAA will have him sit for 4 games like AJ green and company
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:26 am to Ghostfacedistiller
The question I have is how did they learn of the contents of a private conversation. This is an abuse of power IMO.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:27 am to Ghostfacedistiller
does anyone else have a feeling that their may be more to this story than the housing/giving advice to another player issues? i just found it interesting that we had never even caught wind of the second issue until the suspension was levied.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 9:29 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:28 am to Holden Caulfield
No I don't think this was the NCAA. I think Les suspended him, and is waiting for the NCAA to tell him how long he has to suspend him for. It's a precautionary measure by LSU, since we're on probation, but I might be wrong.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:31 am to nacho24
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does anyone else have a feeling that their may be more to this story than the housing/giving advice to another player issues? i just found it interested that we had never even caught wind of the second issue until the suspension was levied.
Nothing more than LSU being on probation and being extra careful. It does seem "unfair" but the NCAA never appears to work on the basis of "fairness".
LSU has asked for immediate reinstatement. Hopefully the NCAA deems this a minor offense.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:32 am to Ghostfacedistiller
We don't know how long he will be ineligible for. Right now he's just flat out ineligible until that changes. LSU is seeking reinstatement with the NCAA, but it will take a while for them to rule, likely forcing him to miss multiple games.
The only report on this says that both LSU and the NCAA found that he violated the rule, but that only LSU has found him ineligible. This is probably just LSU wanting to make damned sure he can play before allowing him on the field, hence the appeal of its own decision.
The only report on this says that both LSU and the NCAA found that he violated the rule, but that only LSU has found him ineligible. This is probably just LSU wanting to make damned sure he can play before allowing him on the field, hence the appeal of its own decision.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:36 am to LSUfan007700
I think LSU is going to sacrifice RSs remaining eligibility in order to hopefully appear complicit and open relative to the NCAA inquiry into all things Lyles related. I think LSU is very worried about this investigation...or so I am told.
If it was just a simple issue, why would they go ahead and say there is no timeline for return. Ridley was suspended last year and then cleared for the first game like it was nothing. Miami's QB is linked to one of the biggest scandals to ever hit college football and they think he might be reinstated by this weekend. Yet Shep is out indefinitely for talking with a teammate about an interview? Something just does not add up.
Bottomline, I don't think RS plays another down in purple and gold.
If it was just a simple issue, why would they go ahead and say there is no timeline for return. Ridley was suspended last year and then cleared for the first game like it was nothing. Miami's QB is linked to one of the biggest scandals to ever hit college football and they think he might be reinstated by this weekend. Yet Shep is out indefinitely for talking with a teammate about an interview? Something just does not add up.
Bottomline, I don't think RS plays another down in purple and gold.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:38 am to Ghostfacedistiller
He's not suspended -- he has been declared ineligible by the LSU athletic department, which has applied to the NCAA to have his eligibility restored.
He was declared ineligible because he was found to have discussed with a teammate that teammate's upcoming "testimony" to the NCAA staff as part of an investigation. Such advance discussion is expressly prohibited by NCAA rules. According to one story I read yesterday (can't remember where so I don't have a link), the investigation was about the Lyles situation, not his housing issue.
Nobody should kid themselves into believing that discussing with another party what they are going to tell investigators is anything other than a serious matter.
He was declared ineligible because he was found to have discussed with a teammate that teammate's upcoming "testimony" to the NCAA staff as part of an investigation. Such advance discussion is expressly prohibited by NCAA rules. According to one story I read yesterday (can't remember where so I don't have a link), the investigation was about the Lyles situation, not his housing issue.
Nobody should kid themselves into believing that discussing with another party what they are going to tell investigators is anything other than a serious matter.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:39 am to emanresu
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We don't know how long he will be ineligible for. Right now he's just flat out ineligible until that changes. LSU is seeking reinstatement with the NCAA, but it will take a while for them to rule, likely forcing him to miss multiple games.
So LSU is ruling him ineligible currently? Technically he could play but that would obviously be a huge gamble?
The bottom line is we're stuck waiting on the NCAA to investigate and if there is an actual ruling he could miss more games?
quote:Got it.
He's not suspended -- he has been declared ineligible by the LSU athletic department, which has applied to the NCAA to have his eligibility restored.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:41 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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if there is an actual ruling he could miss more games?
Yes, they could rule him ineligble permanently. The NCAA doesn't necessarily hand down suspensions, but the longer they wait, and the school sits a player out, it acts as a suspension.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:56 am to KCinDC
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he was found to have discussed with a teammate that teammate's upcoming "testimony" to the NCAA staff as part of an investigation. Such advance discussion is
How could they find out - there must be a rat at LSU.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:57 am to DeltaDoc
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Bottomline, I don't think RS plays another down in purple and gold.
damn. surely, thoust are incorrect.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:00 am to LSU GrandDad
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Bottomline, I don't think RS plays another down in purple and gold.
damn. surely, thoust are incorrect.
I've been wrong many times before and I don't know that LSU even knows at the moment. However, he could be used as an example of compliance and being complicit with the NCAA, so I am told.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:02 am to Teacher
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How could they find out - there must be a rat at LSU.
Shep told them.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think a problem may have been the timing of reporting his possible infraction. it was kind of late i may be wrong about that the NCAA has to investigate and determine his eligibility. prior to that, if we play him, we risk forfeiting games. i have a feeling the NCAA will have him sit for 4 games like AJ green and company
But does it not bother you that Cam was suspended and reinstated in 12 hours or so.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:06 am to DeltaDoc
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Ridley was suspended last year and then cleared for the first game like it was nothing.
Correction: Ridley was ruled ineligible for the Cotton Bowl, then reinstated prior to the game. And comparing the 2 situations is apples and oranges. Ridley was a victim of chicken little professor who thought he/she had violated some NCAA rule during final exams, notified the compliance office, yadda yadda yadda, turns out to be a non-issue. The underlying Shep situation is not so clear, then there's the violation of "protocol", so you can't gain any precedence with the Ridley case.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 10:09 am to DeltaDoc
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Miami's QB is linked to one of the biggest scandals to ever hit college football and they think he might be reinstated by this weekend.
Harris was the one saying he expected to be reinstated and play this wknd, Miami didn't. Miami only asked that he (and the other players they ruled ineligible) have their eligibility restored by the NCAA. they're hoping the ruling on that comes before the game, but not necessarily banking on all of their guys "getting off". see UNC last yr.
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