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Was/Is BP the best qualified entity to stop the leak?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:22 am
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:22 am
I mean i know it was their well but when you are destroying the gulf like that, you have no more "rights" to that property any longer imho. Should we have made our military (or whomever) or hired some other entity to have stop the oil spill from nearly day 1? They should have done whatever necessary not trying to spare anything from the get go of just STOPPING THE OIL?
Why should we let BP handle the situation if they aren't possibly the best ones to handle it and they also have their own agenda they are beating too.
Thoughts?
Why should we let BP handle the situation if they aren't possibly the best ones to handle it and they also have their own agenda they are beating too.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:26 am to Chad504boy
Dude chill. BP already has any and every consulting firm with any idea on the job.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:30 am to Chad504boy
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Why should we let BP handle the situation if they aren't possibly the best ones to handle it and they also have their own agenda they are beating too.
IMO, BP has the best resources ($$, equipment, structure and people) for the job. The top minds in the oil patch are in industry and with BP being one of the biggest players they have a lot of top notch talent and have contracts with top notch talent of all phases of the industry.
If this would have happen to a mid-major company then this spill could go on for yrs IMO. If this had to happen, I'm glad it happen to a company like BP who handle handle the response
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:30 am to Oyster
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Dude chill.
Why are you telling me this?
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BP already has any and every consulting firm with any idea on the job.
They have taken steps to protect their assets instead of starting with the surest of surest means to stop the leak. I think they have a conflict of interest and it's a legit question to ask as to why they are the most qualified to handle this situation.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:30 am to Chad504boy
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Should we have made our military (or whomever) or hired some other entity to have stop the oil spill from nearly day 1?
What are their qualifications?
This post was edited on 6/4/10 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:30 am to Chad504boy
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Why should we let BP handle the situation if they aren't possibly the best ones to handle it and they also have their own agenda they are beating too.
It's BP's equipment and man power. They are the best qualified to stop the leak. They are not the best to clean up the oil. That is the difference.
The federal government should have coordinated a clean up response as soon as this happened and charged BP for it. They didn't and the clean up response has been fubar.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:32 am to tylercsbn9
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What are their qualifications?
dodging wrenches. if you can dodge a wrench, you can stop a leak.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:34 am to Pierre
One would think if BP is out there drilling in the Gulf a plan would be in place and plans for cleanup along miles of coastline would have been written years ago. 
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:36 am to STEVED00
Oil companies have the most expertise to close the well. The government taking over wouldn’t have helped. The catch I think they have though is they want the well shut down to stop the rising cost of cleaning up, but they obviously don’t want any way for a true determination of how much oil is coming up because a lot of the fines are based on that. It makes me wonder if some ideas that were given that could have captured the oil later on as it came out were passed over so that this couldn’t be tracked, unlikely but possible. Its in their interest to understate how much is flowing. .
I do think the government should take over the clean up, actually the military. They have the organization to respond in a timely manner to the movements of the oil. Instead of three days saying the oil is coming to a particular area and nothing is done to stop it.
I do think the government should take over the clean up, actually the military. They have the organization to respond in a timely manner to the movements of the oil. Instead of three days saying the oil is coming to a particular area and nothing is done to stop it.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:38 am to Tiger55
If BP is the best qualified company to handle it fine, I think there should be more involvement from federal officials in the process and double checking the agendas at hand.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:39 am to Chad504boy
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They have taken steps to protect their assets instead of starting with the surest of surest means to stop the leak. I think they have a conflict of interest and it's a legit question to ask as to why they are the most qualified to handle this situation.
Plans to protect their assets? How could you begin to prove this? BP and the rest of the oil companies possess the only people and equipment that are able to kill the blown out well. Nothing the military possesses could help in killing the well. Some believe they could assist on the clean up side, but when it comes to the well itself government cannot correct something it is clueless about.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:42 am to Chad504boy
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Why are you telling me this?
Because you are ranting about a topic you are extremely uniformed on. You are interjecting your emotional responses instead of finding the facts. Do some research and get back to us.
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They have taken steps to protect their assets instead of starting with the surest of surest means to stop the leak. I think they have a conflict of interest and it's a legit question to ask as to why they are the most qualified to handle this situation.
They have already accepted full responsibility for the incident. They also admitted they made mistakes with the well completion. It is not a conflict of interest to stop the leak. Stopping the leak from day one would have been in their best interest. Tell me how it is not in their best interest to stop the leak the very first day if they could.
And again do some research they are not trying to stop the leak with only BP personnel. They have the top minds in the business working for them.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:43 am to TigerDog83
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but when it comes to the well itself government cannot correct something it is clueless about.
BP hasn't come off as overly knowledgeable either.
Wasn't cutting off and capping the last resort because they will no longer be able to tap it now in the future? Why didn't they start doing this on day 1?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:45 am to Oyster
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Because you are ranting about a topic you are extremely uniformed on. You are interjecting your emotional responses instead of finding the facts. Do some research and get back to us.
This is not a rant. It's a discussion that i'm open to ideas and opinions dude. You are the one whose wearing tight panties.
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Tell me how it is not in their best interest to stop the leak the very first day if they could.
Isn't there differences of how to stop the leak as to protecting the future availability of the well that they have sitting upon a gold mine of oil? Different ways of stopping the leak affects how they are or are not able to access it later on... right? or wrong?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:46 am to Chad504boy
quote:Why? What do they know? What skills do any of these people have?
I think there should be more involvement from federal officials in the process
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:48 am to AlxTgr
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Why? What do they know? What skills do any of these people have?
How skilled do you have to be to be involved in monitoring their decision process and making?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:51 am to Chad504boy
quote:That question explains a lot. Thanks.
Why? What do they know? What skills do any of these people have?
How skilled do you have to be to be involved in monitoring their decision process and making?
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:52 am to Chad504boy
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Isn't there differences of how to stop the leak as to protecting the future availability of the well that they have sitting upon a gold mine of oil? Different ways of stopping the leak affects how they are or are not able to access it later on... right? or wrong?
Wrong. There was no way to ever produce this well from day one. Most likely the casing has been displaced into the BOP. This well was doomed from the the time the blow out occurred.
And no they wont be able to produce the relief well either. So they are double F*&ked no matter what.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:55 am to Chad504boy
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Isn't there differences of how to stop the leak as to protecting the future availability of the well that they have sitting upon a gold mine of oil? Different ways of stopping the leak affects how they are or are not able to access it later on... right? or wrong?
The money this well is/was gonna make is peanuts compared to the money this leak is going to cost them. They already were drilling TWO more relief wells. The oil is in a giant resvoir and you could drill into it from literally thousands of different places.
Posted on 6/4/10 at 10:21 am to Chad504boy
quote:The best way to protect their "gold mine of oil" would be to keep it in the ground until production can be set up, not spilling in the ocean. So there isn't a conflict of interest. Bp's best interest economically would be to cap the well immediately.
Isn't there differences of how to stop the leak as to protecting the future availability of the well that they have sitting upon a gold mine of oil? Different ways of stopping the leak affects how they are or are not able to access it later on... right? or wrong?
Of course there are differences of opinion about how to stop the flow. Just like arseholes everyone has an opinion. But Bp has things no one else does. Reservoir data, well control experts on hire, buildings full of engineers with tons of subsea construction experience, and boat loads of money. This isn't LLOG we're dealing with here. (no offense to LLOG, but they just don't have Bp's scale of resources to tap)
How many subsea construction or well control people does the military have? ZERO.
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