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Posted on 4/9/26 at 6:55 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20047 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 6:55 am
I overheard a convo that a public teacher was having with a bus driver. She was complaining about trying to teach rude kids, etc. but was also of the mindset that charter schools are terrible. Personally I don't care for charter schools as govt still has control over it.

I decided to jump in and offer my insight (big mistake). I told her it was the system itself that's the issue. If a teacher can't control what goes in the classroom then that's a problem. Tax dollars go to bureaucrats who prevent many decent teachers from being able to teach. I mentioned a teacher should be able to expel a troublemaker from classroom on a longterm basis but she pushed back claiming it doesn't solve the issue.

I didn't even touch on how welfare subsidizes alot of that nonsense. I was just taken back by someone is complaining about a system yet don't want real change.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26268 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 6:59 am to
Where do you gain your insight?
Posted by moontigr
Cosby, TN
Member since Nov 2020
7412 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:09 am to
quote:

I mentioned a teacher should be able to expel a troublemaker from classroom on a longterm basis




If only it were that easy
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9249 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:11 am to
If you send your child to public school, you are committing child abuse. It’s that bad.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27942 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:13 am to
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If only it were that easy


It can be. It just takes people willing to make hard decisions.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12909 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:14 am to
With charter schools and some states giving voucher for private schools it’s turning public school into day care for kids who have parents that don’t care to be involved .
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17673 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:15 am to
Rude kids = basketball americans
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50188 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:21 am to
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but she pushed back claiming it doesn't solve the issue.

My wife is very involved in the school system here and she’s super conservative, except when it comes to schools. She complains about all the neurotic bullshite they have to put up with in schools nowadays but every time I mention what I think the solution is, she pushes back and defends some retarded liberal arse policy. It’s like those school systems brainwash employees into believing the retarded shite they embrace and even conservative employees believe it to an extent. I’ve told her so many times, after debates, that we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

When we were all in school in the 1990’s and early 2000’s, 90% of the things schools tolerate today would’ve resulted in an absolute expulsion then.

Don’t get me started on the fear of actually being proactive in stopping weapons from entering the schools. They train so heavily multiple times a year on what to do during and after a shooting occurs instead of focusing on how to stop the shooting from happening in the first place, but when I bring this up to her, she calls me stupid and says you can’t do that. Well how come shootings almost never occur beyond the TSA checkpoints inside airports? fricking screen the shite out of students before entering school. I don’t give a damn if it takes kids an extra 15 minutes to get into school if it keeps my kid safer. But by all means, please continue to train teachers on how to triage injured students and figure out which ones to “stop the bleed” for after a shooting happens. That’s how you keep the children of America safe!
Posted by Deek
Member since Sep 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:28 am to
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defends some retarded liberal arse policy


I assume that she's in a teachers union?

quote:

she calls me stupid


Um, yeah, that wouldn't happen
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19746 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:39 am to
The huge turning point in public schools, obama's "dear colleague letter". It stated that any school that disciplined a certain race at a higher percentage than their population within that school......would result in all federal funding being withdrawn.

Considering one race of 13% makes up over 50% of the crime, this was literally a license to hunt with no repercussions what so ever.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89085 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:45 am to
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If only it were that easy



It used to be. I went to a charter school. First was detention, then in school suspension, then out of school suspension, then expulsion.


I got 3 days iss for skipping detention for speaking up in class. Three days out of my classes in a room with other trouble makers just doing busy work. I didn't even have to do anything crazy to get that. Fighting was automatic out of school suspension.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4100 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:57 am to
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Considering one race of 13% makes up over 50% of the crime, this was literally a license to hunt with no repercussions what so ever.

Yup. My school district spent 30+ years under court control due to a race lawsuit that saw kids bussed all over to balance out demographics somewhat. Toward the end of each quarter the black kids literally couldn’t get in trouble and white kids were sent to the office for coughing too loud, as they tried to balance out their numbers.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96369 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:59 am to
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I mentioned a teacher should be able to expel a troublemaker from classroom on a longterm basis


You get blackballed as a teacher if you continue to push the issue.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20025 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:01 am to
This never happened.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49414 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:02 am to
did she identify "the issue?"
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31436 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:04 am to
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Where do you gain your insight?

Statistics and test scores.

Where do you get yours?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70195 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:05 am to
I think the current approach to reading and literacy will help a lot. Preventing kids from leaving 4th grade without being literate will cut down the number of disruptive middle/high schoolers dramatically.

When I was a teacher, every bad PITA violent kid couldn’t read. They don’t teach literacy beyond 4th grade, it’s just assumed. However, if you can’t read, you have no chance to succeed in any middle or high school class other than shop or gym. Kids get frustrated and discouraged, realize that they have no chance but are forced to keep showing up, and then they start acting out due to boredom and anger. I saw it all the time.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60898 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:06 am to
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trinidadtiger



good morning, friend.

I wholly disagree with your take here but I snapped this pic this morning. Not sure if jasmine grows where you are but it sure smells divine.

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Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33169 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:06 am to
Reason #285 we send our kids to Catholic schools.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1901 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:10 am to
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basketball americans


Is that what we were calling “Canadians” a few years ago?
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