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What statin are you on?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 2:40 pm
45 male, 5'11 165, workout hard 6 days a week since I was a teen. Former athlete and distance runner. Resting heart rate of 42 and have aced all my tests- Echo, stress test, etc.
My dad had quadruple bypass at 39 and my uncle (his brother) had it at 51. Both still alive!
When i turned 40 i went to a cardiologist to do regular checkups. First thing he had me do was do a calcium score. well, it came back 1300 with a ton of plaque, including in the widow maker. He did a heart cath and it turns out i have a ton of plaque, but its spread out evenly along the walls and arteries are clear.
The last two years my lipids LDL have been creeping up. Im curious what y'all think because he wants me to start statins. I tried Lipitor 2 years ago and was miserable. I tried CQ10 with it and i felt like a zombie since i have such a low HR. Ive heard they have shots now but i assume they are very expensive.
Here are the pics of my last two panels. Please let me know what you think and if i must go on statins. He said with family history and all the plaque I have i need to have LDL under 75.
FYI i had my ApoA checked and its 27 nmol
Here are my last two lipid panels
1 year ago
HDL-58
LDL-104
Trig- 49
Total- 176
1 month ago
HDL-56
LDL-116
Trig- 63
Total- 187
Total- 176
My dad had quadruple bypass at 39 and my uncle (his brother) had it at 51. Both still alive!
When i turned 40 i went to a cardiologist to do regular checkups. First thing he had me do was do a calcium score. well, it came back 1300 with a ton of plaque, including in the widow maker. He did a heart cath and it turns out i have a ton of plaque, but its spread out evenly along the walls and arteries are clear.
The last two years my lipids LDL have been creeping up. Im curious what y'all think because he wants me to start statins. I tried Lipitor 2 years ago and was miserable. I tried CQ10 with it and i felt like a zombie since i have such a low HR. Ive heard they have shots now but i assume they are very expensive.
Here are the pics of my last two panels. Please let me know what you think and if i must go on statins. He said with family history and all the plaque I have i need to have LDL under 75.
FYI i had my ApoA checked and its 27 nmol
Here are my last two lipid panels
1 year ago
HDL-58
LDL-104
Trig- 49
Total- 176
1 month ago
HDL-56
LDL-116
Trig- 63
Total- 187
Total- 176
Posted on 4/4/26 at 3:57 pm to dallastiger55
You need about a 40% reduction in LDL, just a tiny dose of Crestor 5mg nightly should get you there or very close with that dose. Side effects are usually minimal at that dose. OTOH, for the lowest myalgia risk with a statin you could do 1mg pitavastatin or the lowest dose pravastatin with ezetimibe 10 to get you there. Ezetimibe alone will lower about 25% by itself. Newer non-statin options are bempedoic acid and the PCSK9 inhibitors with the PCSK9 being more potent and an injection. Both can be really expensive depending on insurance but if you’re statin intolerant your cardiologist may be able to do a prior auth and get one approved.
And with your family history and calcium score at your age, I do think being aggressive with lipid management is a wise approach
And with your family history and calcium score at your age, I do think being aggressive with lipid management is a wise approach
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:37 pm to dallastiger55
Get on Repatha. It's not a statin. My numbers did a 180 after a few months.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:16 pm to TigerGman
Any side effects of the shot? How expensive?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:04 pm to dallastiger55
Just take Crestor. If you can’t tolerate then get on repatha.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:49 pm to dallastiger55
I've read avocados lower LDL.
You can buy avocado oil capsules online.
If they work, I'd rather try them than a statin.
You can buy avocado oil capsules online.
If they work, I'd rather try them than a statin.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:59 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
Any side effects of the shot?
Very few. Except for possibly high blood sugar. Not sure on costs, insurance covers it. 1 injection every two weeks
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:52 pm to TigerGman
Damn I already have borderline fasting glucose at 92.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:16 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
Damn I already have borderline fasting glucose at 92.
What's your A1C?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:55 pm to TigerGman
I just found out it’s not part of my yearly physical blood work
I’m getting a list together of stuff. I’m gonna request for my discount online lab.
I’ll just take the orders down to a quest down the street
Apo B, LP little A, a1c
I’m getting a list together of stuff. I’m gonna request for my discount online lab.
I’ll just take the orders down to a quest down the street
Apo B, LP little A, a1c
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:30 am to dallastiger55
quote:
a1c
For sure get your A1C at least twice a year. I think it's much more informative cause it gives you a look at your blood sugar over months.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:24 am to TigerGman
Sorry I meant to say I had my little A checked and its 27 nmol
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:49 am to dallastiger55
Where's your apo lipo b?
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:16 pm to dallastiger55
Rosuvastatin (=Crestor), 10 mg, no side effects, certainly not joint pain, that I can discern - started treatment a year ago. I’m also a tall, thin guy - healthy - but older than you. Your blood panel lipids though borderline high for LDL are not particularly bad, mine were similar to yours for years and my PCP and cardiologist left it up to me as to whether or not I wanted to take a statin, I declined, as there was no history of heart disease in my family on father’s and mother’s side - and my physicians were good with that.
However, I did go on the statin and low dose aspirin a year ago after a test showed I had a CAC score of 550. As mentioned by another poster, and my cardiologist, it reduced LDL and Total C 40%. Given your family history of heat disease, CAC score and age, and your cardiologists’s advice I wouldn’t discount going back on a statin. My cardiologist did tell me that if one type statin has negative side effects it’s likely another type of statin will likely have similar side effects….so there is that. Maybe dose regulation is key for you to minimize negative side effects.
However, I did go on the statin and low dose aspirin a year ago after a test showed I had a CAC score of 550. As mentioned by another poster, and my cardiologist, it reduced LDL and Total C 40%. Given your family history of heat disease, CAC score and age, and your cardiologists’s advice I wouldn’t discount going back on a statin. My cardiologist did tell me that if one type statin has negative side effects it’s likely another type of statin will likely have similar side effects….so there is that. Maybe dose regulation is key for you to minimize negative side effects.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 3:16 pm to dallastiger55
Whenever I see people talk about CAC scores and they show their lipid panel, that’s great, but it’s only part of the equation. If you were a long term smoker, that might be more of a factor to your CAC score. Even if you quit a while ago. Not saying you were or are. Just putting it out there.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 4:10 pm to dangerousdon
Never smoked or done drugs. Very casual drinker
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:28 pm to dallastiger55
Not on one..
Latest lipid panel
Cholesterol: 140
LDL: 92.6
HDL: 35
Trig: 62
Other stuff
A1C: 4.9
Glucose: 90
Calcium: 9.5
My HDL has always been low; probably hereditary.
Latest lipid panel
Cholesterol: 140
LDL: 92.6
HDL: 35
Trig: 62
Other stuff
A1C: 4.9
Glucose: 90
Calcium: 9.5
My HDL has always been low; probably hereditary.
This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:20 pm to dallastiger55
Be cautious with statins. More and more evidence is coming out that they are not the panacea once thought.
Statins do reduce cholesterol BUT at what cost? Our bodies produce cholesterol (mainly in the liver) for many vital functions. We would die quickly if not for cholesterol.
Our brains consist of about 20% cholesterol. Is that the reason that 'brain fog' occurs when taking statins? What about dementia? IDK
There is still a lot of debate going on in cardiologist circles about statins.
I picked up this book a few years ago and it and other studies have changed my mind.
The Great Cholesterol Myth
I am no medical professional, and I certainly do not claim to be an expert in this matter. I am just a regular guy trying to keep healthy and learn about health so I can live a good life. Heart disease runs in my family, so I have a huge stake in this.
Folks with normal cholesterol have heart attacks, strokes and embolisms all the time.
LDL's main function is to carry cholesterol from the liver to other tissues in the body. HDL carry's excess cholesterol back to the liver.
The big issue with LDLs is when they become dense and small, they burrow into the thin lining of the arteries, the endothelium, and build up over time like a pimple (soft plaque) and erupt like a volcano causing clots, aka blockage, which results in heart attacks, strokes, and embolisms.
Most of the time, enzymes in our body breaks up those clots and the arteries heal with hard plaque, aka calcium. That why cardiologist use the CAC score to assess artery health.
Bottom line, we want our LDL particles to be 'fluffy' and large, so they don't burrow down into the inner lining of the arteries which build up and eventually erupt causing blockage.
The standard lipid panel is outdated and while it is helpful, it doesn't give a full evaluation of LDL, HDLs, cholesterol...
Request advanced testing like the NMR LipoProfile (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance LipoProfile.
LINK
Statins do reduce cholesterol BUT at what cost? Our bodies produce cholesterol (mainly in the liver) for many vital functions. We would die quickly if not for cholesterol.
Our brains consist of about 20% cholesterol. Is that the reason that 'brain fog' occurs when taking statins? What about dementia? IDK
There is still a lot of debate going on in cardiologist circles about statins.
I picked up this book a few years ago and it and other studies have changed my mind.
The Great Cholesterol Myth
I am no medical professional, and I certainly do not claim to be an expert in this matter. I am just a regular guy trying to keep healthy and learn about health so I can live a good life. Heart disease runs in my family, so I have a huge stake in this.
Folks with normal cholesterol have heart attacks, strokes and embolisms all the time.
LDL's main function is to carry cholesterol from the liver to other tissues in the body. HDL carry's excess cholesterol back to the liver.
The big issue with LDLs is when they become dense and small, they burrow into the thin lining of the arteries, the endothelium, and build up over time like a pimple (soft plaque) and erupt like a volcano causing clots, aka blockage, which results in heart attacks, strokes, and embolisms.
Most of the time, enzymes in our body breaks up those clots and the arteries heal with hard plaque, aka calcium. That why cardiologist use the CAC score to assess artery health.
Bottom line, we want our LDL particles to be 'fluffy' and large, so they don't burrow down into the inner lining of the arteries which build up and eventually erupt causing blockage.
The standard lipid panel is outdated and while it is helpful, it doesn't give a full evaluation of LDL, HDLs, cholesterol...
Request advanced testing like the NMR LipoProfile (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance LipoProfile.
quote:
However, recent research shows that lipoprotein particle number is more predictive of cardiovascular risk than cholesterol levels. The Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) LipoProfile test assesses the number of lipoprotein particles, sizes of lipoproteins, levels of cholesterol, and patient risk categories. Furthermore, it enables the identification of patients with underestimated cardiovascular risks—those with a discordant high number of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) particles (LDL-P) despite low cholesterol levels.
LINK
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:29 pm to Reubaltaich
so why is everyone obsessed with lowering LDL and what if no matter what I try it doesnt go down? everyone tells me with a 1300 calcium score im a ticking time bomb
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