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About the St. George school district constitutional amendment…

Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:20 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54503 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:20 am
It has to pass statewide AND in EBR, right? I think it will statewide but EBR might be a little iffy

I asked how it would be different than Central or Zachary

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On paper, it isn’t.

In reality: (1) Central and Zachary are physically distant from most of EBR Schools. With the exception of a small percentage of students attending BR High and Woodlawn High, Central and Zachary students were already being educated in their communities. Their physical schools were already there.

(2) The rise of magnets and the expansion of other non-magnet choice programs. These are prevalent in EBR Schools when they weren’t during the Central & Zachary breakaways. ()


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(2) …because of programs of choice, St George kids are present in schools across the district and not concentrated in a handful of schools (such as in Central and Zachary).

(3) The language to create the St George schools says that the school district must be operational as of July 1, 2027. If Amendment 2 passes, the school boards aren’t slated to enter into negotiations for assets and liabilities until the end of July. At that point, there is less than one academic year for parents


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(3) to receive information on where their child is zoned to go to school, if a school exists. I say “if a school exists,” because using information from a collection of public sources, there are approximately 400 students currently in 4th & 5th grade that would need 6th & 7th grade desks. There is exactly ONE middle school physically in St George. It currently is operating at ~85% capacity. There is a D-rated K-8 school in St George operating at ~75% capacity.


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400 6th & 7th graders represents 50% of capacity at the dedicated middle school or 50% of total capacity at the K-8 school.

(4) There is no guarantee teachers transition school districts, especially because of how teachers can become vested in their health insurance. In summary: the Central and Zachary breakaways had more information available to parents and the infrastructure to support a breakaway existed. It does NOT exist here.


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Well… here’s more info When new school districts are created, there’s a “hold harmless” clause/rule with how MFP is calculated. In year 5, MFP is recalculated for each district with the new school district accounted for. In MOST cases, MFP decreases per student statewide for every new school district created. A decrease in MFP is a decrease in funding per student. Right now, this is a hyperlocal problem the entire state is voting on. In the midterm, this will impact districts statewide.


I think this lady is voting no…
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8140 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 5:20 am to
Just curious, does St. George have a tax proposal on the ballot to support its new school district? I ask because Baker (the breakaway everyone forgets about) never passed a new tax or increased its millage rate. Now it has no traditional public schools left; it’s 100% charter-operated. I’d say that qualifies as a model of what not to do, just as Central and Zachary are models of what to do. I believe the latter has significantly higher millage rates than EBR, nearly 50-60% more based on recent figures.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
8943 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 5:38 am to
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It has to pass statewide AND in EBR, right?


That is correct.

But guess what? Surprise! Surprise! BR is fighting against it because it will take money away from BR schools. Just another way BR was milking St. George.

Probably call us racist by wanting to have better and wanting control over schools in our own city. Whatever. The truth is they want to keep stealing St George money.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63223 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:21 am to
I think it just has to pass with a simple majority statewide just like any other amendment.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11013 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:04 am to
The only people who actually live in St George voting no have kids in charter schools. Their argument is this will harm charter schools and cause their own kids, whom are enrolled in charter schools, to have to switch schools. Not one single person will state the good of the EBR public schools, only the charter schools.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114491 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:21 am to
You asked Who? What?

Anyone who votes against this is fricking retarded.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15042 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:29 am to
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I think it just has to pass with a simple majority statewide just like any other amendment.


Nope, needs a majority of ebr voters as well.

Figure st. George, Central and Zachary will support it, and EBR won't (Baker? Dunno).

That is close but leans toward no. HOWEVER, the st. george voters should have turnout on their side.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26702 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:30 am to
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I think it just has to pass with a simple majority statewide just like any other amendment.


No, it also has to pass with a simple majority in East Baton Rouge Parish. As long as Central and Zachary turn out in good numbers, it should pass. The overwhelming majority of St. George is going to vote yes.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10116 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:06 am to
Why the hell would someone in Monroe, Lake Charles or Slidell have a say so on a single parish school district vote? This makes no sense.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10204 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:14 am to
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That is close but leans toward no. HOWEVER, the st. george voters should have turnout on their side.


It's on a low voter weekend - Saturday May 16. They have the primary for US Rep 5th and the primary for US Senator. The Dems aren't spending any money whatsoever on the primaries because they know they are guaranteed to get a candidate in the general. So since it is no longer the jungle format for those two there will be very low turnout.

I expect St. George to pass pretty easily in both the parish and state.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 8:16 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26702 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:36 am to
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Why the hell would someone in Monroe, Lake Charles or Slidell have a say so on a single parish school district vote? This makes no sense.


Our state constitution establishes school districts follow boundaries of the parish. To carve a new one out requires the constitution to be amended which requires the entire state to vote on it.

St. George has a little over 20% of the registered voters in EBR and Central is nearly 10%. Need huge turnouts in those two areas.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6552 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:44 am to
The financial situation EBR is in, they will be happy to unload the schools. They talked a big game, but now everyone knows they were stealing money everywhere and the City Parish coffers are a mess.

Broome has disappeared and each day more people associated with her team and machine are being indicted for fraud, mismanagement of funds, outright theft etc.

If BR had real media they would look into the Library funding and the fraud taking place at the Council on Aging - We already know about the CATS fraud.
Posted by ThankGodForFootball
Member since Sep 2007
285 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:49 am to
I think some of the hesitation for people to vote yes is that there are simply no details, no actual plan for how this will be ready in a year. It's not that people are necessarily against it in principle, just that they need more time to get organized and present a plan.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25206 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:54 am to
More interesting to me - this is THE issue that got St George created in the first place.

Imagine a world where 15 years ago, EBR would have been on board with allowing the southern part of the parish to form it's own school district. Remember when then-state senator Sharon Weston Broome said that in order to create a standalone school district, they'd need to incorporate as a city first? Well ok then.

It's absolutely mind-blowing that all of this eventually came to fruition. Now it's time to complete the circle. It's time for SBR to finally create what has plagued the southern part of the parish for generations.

Vote YES on Amendment 2.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6495 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:03 am to
The remaining unincorporated area continues to be left out. We were told there would be opportunities to annex into St. George. Nothing has happened. We are also not included in the new school district. We are the red headed step child that nobody wants. But they are asking us to vote? I’m really undecided now.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26702 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:17 am to
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remaining unincorporated area continues to be left out. We were told there would be opportunities to annex into St. George. Nothing has happened. We are also not included in the new school district. We are the red headed step child that nobody wants. But they are asking us to vote? I’m really undecided now.


Where do you live? There isn’t a ton of unincorporated areas in the southern part of the parish left now. Most are in the north around Central, Baker, and Zachary. All that’s in the south is Gardere and around O’Neal.

St. George is still trying to come to an agreement with BR on the incorporation date and back taxes. They aren’t going to start annexing areas right now until everything is settled.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6495 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:22 am to
Near
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26702 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:28 am to
I’m sure they will, in time. Like I said, they still haven’t resolved everything with BR yet.

If the school district passes and the city later expands, that school district would expand also so you’d be included.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
24646 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:42 am to
DEMS cant stand to see successful white people get better.....
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8140 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 5:45 pm to
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In MOST cases, MFP decreases per student statewide for every new school district created. A decrease in MFP is a decrease in funding per student. Right now, this is a hyperlocal problem the entire state is voting on

Is this true? Does creating this school district negatively affect funding is school districts throughout the state?
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