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They Hunted Humans
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:15 am
I really enjoy some of the occasional history type posts here on the O-T. Thought I might share what I recently learned from an extended trip to Bosnia. I will be doing a Trip Report on the Travel Board, but that's more touristy oriented. This is a historical context with a dark past. Many of us recall the events during the early 90's and watched the genocide unfold before our very eyes on TV while the world just watched.
Sarajevo was under siege for nearly four years, from April 1992 to February 1996. Bosnian Serb forces surrounded the city, cutting off food, power, and water while shelling and sniper fire hit civilians daily. More than 300 shells a day fell on the city at the peak. Nearly every building was damaged, thousands were killed, and the population survived through airlifts, black market supplies, and a hand dug tunnel under the airport. It was the longest siege in modern European history and left deep scars that are still visible today.
We hired a tour guide for the day to learn more about the "Siege of Sarajevo". He was actually in the Yugoslavian Army before the breakup and ended up fighting for the Bosnian Army. His stories about fighting Russians that supported the war, showing us their graves and discussing how snipers killed local civilians daily was chilling.
“Sarajevo Safari” refers to allegations that, during the siege, foreign visitors were taken to Serb-held positions above the city and allowed to fire into Sarajevo. Some witnesses say civilians were hit, though the full story is still under investigation and not every detail has been legally confirmed. There are videos online showing these "tourists" shooting sniper rifles from the surrounding hills.
The claims resurfaced after a 2022 documentary prompted new inquiries in Bosnia and Italy. The siege itself killed more than 11,000 people in Sarajevo, including over 1,500 children, and around 100,000 people died across the wider war.
For most Bosnians — Bosniaks, Croats, and Serbs — the war wasn’t something ordinary people wanted. Communities had lived together for generations, and many endured the violence rather than benefiting from it.
The Dayton Agreement ended the fighting but locked wartime divisions into the political system: three constituent peoples, two entities, a rotating presidency, and layers of government built around ethnic quotas. Critics say it froze the conflict instead of resolving it, and today political pressure from Serb separatists and Croat nationalist demands keeps old tensions close to the surface.
I guess this falls into the “those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” line of thinking about the atrocities of war.
Anyway, hope you find this informative. I know we learned so much.
Selected Photos (Google Photo Album)
YouTube:
Well Done Video
Another Video
Sarajevo was under siege for nearly four years, from April 1992 to February 1996. Bosnian Serb forces surrounded the city, cutting off food, power, and water while shelling and sniper fire hit civilians daily. More than 300 shells a day fell on the city at the peak. Nearly every building was damaged, thousands were killed, and the population survived through airlifts, black market supplies, and a hand dug tunnel under the airport. It was the longest siege in modern European history and left deep scars that are still visible today.
We hired a tour guide for the day to learn more about the "Siege of Sarajevo". He was actually in the Yugoslavian Army before the breakup and ended up fighting for the Bosnian Army. His stories about fighting Russians that supported the war, showing us their graves and discussing how snipers killed local civilians daily was chilling.
“Sarajevo Safari” refers to allegations that, during the siege, foreign visitors were taken to Serb-held positions above the city and allowed to fire into Sarajevo. Some witnesses say civilians were hit, though the full story is still under investigation and not every detail has been legally confirmed. There are videos online showing these "tourists" shooting sniper rifles from the surrounding hills.
The claims resurfaced after a 2022 documentary prompted new inquiries in Bosnia and Italy. The siege itself killed more than 11,000 people in Sarajevo, including over 1,500 children, and around 100,000 people died across the wider war.
For most Bosnians — Bosniaks, Croats, and Serbs — the war wasn’t something ordinary people wanted. Communities had lived together for generations, and many endured the violence rather than benefiting from it.
The Dayton Agreement ended the fighting but locked wartime divisions into the political system: three constituent peoples, two entities, a rotating presidency, and layers of government built around ethnic quotas. Critics say it froze the conflict instead of resolving it, and today political pressure from Serb separatists and Croat nationalist demands keeps old tensions close to the surface.
I guess this falls into the “those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” line of thinking about the atrocities of war.
Anyway, hope you find this informative. I know we learned so much.
Selected Photos (Google Photo Album)
YouTube:
Well Done Video
Another Video
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:23 am to Nole Man
That was a nasty war.
You had widespread rape, ethnic cleansing and prolonged sieges where normal people were trapped into medieval style compounds and forced to defend themselves with little help from the outside.
You don't have to go down the rabbit hole too far to see how far and how fast civil society can break down and result in unbelievably horrible situations.
You had widespread rape, ethnic cleansing and prolonged sieges where normal people were trapped into medieval style compounds and forced to defend themselves with little help from the outside.
You don't have to go down the rabbit hole too far to see how far and how fast civil society can break down and result in unbelievably horrible situations.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:25 am to Nole Man
We lost Drazen Petrovic to all that crap over there. Sounds like a very interesting trip. I've heard from folks that have been over there that there really are some beautiful cool areas to visit.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:28 am to wareaglepete
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We lost Drazen Petrovic to all that crap over there.
He died in a car crash.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:31 am to KyleOrtonsMustache
That is a Mandela effect for me. I could have sworn he got shot when he was back over there during the basketball off season. I swear I remember seeing that on a documentary. Weird.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:34 am to Nole Man
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“Sarajevo Safari” refers to allegations that, during the siege, foreign visitors were taken to Serb-held positions above the city and allowed to fire into Sarajevo.
The godlike depravity that wealth creates in some humans is a thing to behold.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:38 am to Nole Man
Sarajevo hosted the Winter Olympics in 1984 and ten years later that place looked like something from a rated-R video game.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:47 am to Nole Man
quote:
We hired a tour guide for the day to learn more about the "Siege of Sarajevo". He was actually in the Yugoslavian Army before the breakup and ended up fighting for the Bosnian Army. His stories about fighting Russians that supported the war, showing us their graves and discussing how snipers killed local civilians daily was chilling.
I went to Croatia in 2016 and really wanted to hear about the war from locals, but was advised against bringing it up. Still too fresh.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:57 am to facher08
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I went to Croatia in 2016 and really wanted to hear about the war from locals, but was advised against bringing it up. Still too fresh.
I was too. And I was told not to discuss Serbs. Turns out, they want the world to know about the atrocities. That the average person there gets along fine with the various ethnic groups and that it's the politicians that created this problem.
I've learned that Bosnia still functions day-to-day, but the political system is under strain. Nationalist rhetoric is louder, institutions are being tested, and the margin for error is shrinking.
Interesting enough, and not to devolve into politics on this board, there's a real fear they have that Trump will diminish or dismiss the Dayton Agreement. Even the signally of lack of interest in the region would send a strong message to Serbian Nationals to begin succession talks again.
Article on the "Growing Turmoil"
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:03 am to facher08
I read a long article years ago about how to survive an end of civilization event such as an EMP. It was written by a man who was trapped in Sarajevo.
Two things that stood out:
1. The most valuable item he recommended stocking up on was disposable lighters. He said they are small and some people traded a week with a woman for one lighter.
2. People who tried to defend their house with just their family didn’t make it. You needed about 12-15 people defending one house. He talked about the importance of putting snipers on roofs many yards away from a house to defend it from mobs or plunderers.
Two things that stood out:
1. The most valuable item he recommended stocking up on was disposable lighters. He said they are small and some people traded a week with a woman for one lighter.
2. People who tried to defend their house with just their family didn’t make it. You needed about 12-15 people defending one house. He talked about the importance of putting snipers on roofs many yards away from a house to defend it from mobs or plunderers.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:08 am to bird35
quote:Learned this from black and white westerns.
. People who tried to defend their house with just their family didn’t make it. You needed about 12-15 people defending one house.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:00 am to Nole Man
These Balkan states have absolutely brutal histories. Why is that?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:22 am to Nole Man
I recently heard about this because of the Italians launching a formal investigation, or charging some folks. Dont remember the exact details, but I had never heard about the "safaris". I was pretty young when that war was going on. So I did some reading and that entire war, and some of the stories about old people and kids dodging sniper fire on certain streets, were just brutal.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:27 am to Funky Tide 8
Here’s a good article on the subject. I feel like while all the people get along, there is intense nationalism, particularly certain Serbian Nationalists. The Dayton Accord created artificial boundaries that don’t really reflect the cultures in the regions.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:32 am to Nole Man
Good John McCutcheon song about it
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:34 am to Nole Man
I have a buddy that was a kid and dad was in the military in Sarajevo during the war. He was rescued as a refugee after about 2 years in the war. He wrote a book about it and talks about this in this book. His dad survived a bombing that it details.
Amazon: Silence in the Quiet of Peace
Amazon: Silence in the Quiet of Peace
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:56 am to Funky Tide 8
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These Balkan states have absolutely brutal histories. Why is that?
Quick answer would be is geographically they are where the sphere of influence of east and west intersect. Austria Hungary vs the Ottomans was an ongoing thing. Long answer would be TL,DR
Posted on 3/24/26 at 12:01 pm to Nole Man
It was a thing- back then- the snipers-the world knew. Nasty, nasty business. Had there not been intervention- they would have murdered on the Rwanda scale.
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