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Legalzoom vs actual attorney - want to put a will in place.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:04 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:04 am
Early thirties with kids. Nothing crazy in assets just a house and retirement accounts. Live in Texas.
I want to designate who our kids would go to if we passed. Also, stipulate how life insurance etc would be distributed.
Spoke to an attorney and he suggested a will and trust to avoid probate court. He quoted me $4500.
My Father in Law has way more assets and a business. He said just use Willsandtrust.com for $600.
Any opinions on using a website vs a live attorney?
I want to designate who our kids would go to if we passed. Also, stipulate how life insurance etc would be distributed.
Spoke to an attorney and he suggested a will and trust to avoid probate court. He quoted me $4500.
My Father in Law has way more assets and a business. He said just use Willsandtrust.com for $600.
Any opinions on using a website vs a live attorney?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:20 am to SaintTiger80
In a similar situation here (sans kids). I’m thinking to do it online. Being in a community property state (as is Texas) most everything defaults to my spouse. Most things like bank and brokerage accounts can be assigned POD or right to survivorship. After getting reamed on legal fees for the most basic of prenups I’m heavily leaning towards avoiding attorneys especially with my basic estate setup. With good planning, you should be able to avoid probate before it even gets to the will. (Unless you’re in Louisiana in which case you’re screwed).
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:24 am to SaintTiger80
I haven't heard any complaints about Legalzoom, but then again that's not a space I am in often. Quite a few large companies offer free legal services as part of their benefits package, you might want to check with your HR to see what's available (the wife and I did ours through that sort of service when she was with JetBlue).
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:14 am to SaintTiger80
Invest heavily in physical gold and bury it all in the yard and make a treasure map for your kids to find it but the map only appears when you die. Not sure how to do that one
You could probably make it educational somehow
You could probably make it educational somehow
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:16 am to SaintTiger80
If you are in Texas, I would ask your lawyer his justification for a Trust. Unlike many states, Texas probate is fast and cheap, most people do not need a Trust and a Will is sufficient.
There is also much more than just a Will or Trust needed, maybe they are including it, in that price. Looking over what I had done in Texas a few years ago.
- MEDICAL POWER OF ATTORNEY AND HIPAA RELEASE AUTHORIZATION
- SURVIVORSHIP AGREEMENT FOR COMMUNITY PROPERTY
- STATUTORY DURABLE POWER OF ATTORNEY
- APPOINTMENT FOR DISPOSITION OF REMAINS
- MEMORANDUM REGARDING PERSONAL PROPERTY
#1 item to make sure is done before talking to legal, setup all you accounts to proper beneficiaries.
All the above was done by a lawyer, for less than $4500. Not much less.
There is also much more than just a Will or Trust needed, maybe they are including it, in that price. Looking over what I had done in Texas a few years ago.
- MEDICAL POWER OF ATTORNEY AND HIPAA RELEASE AUTHORIZATION
- SURVIVORSHIP AGREEMENT FOR COMMUNITY PROPERTY
- STATUTORY DURABLE POWER OF ATTORNEY
- APPOINTMENT FOR DISPOSITION OF REMAINS
- MEMORANDUM REGARDING PERSONAL PROPERTY
#1 item to make sure is done before talking to legal, setup all you accounts to proper beneficiaries.
All the above was done by a lawyer, for less than $4500. Not much less.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:27 am to SaintTiger80
I do this for a living. We love when people do their own planning online. It costs 10x+ to fix mistakes on the back end. And puts your family through a living hell for many months (sometimes years).
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 8:28 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:53 am to SaintTiger80
I cannot tell you how many times during my career someone has come into my office with pre-printed, online purchased forms or LegalZoom generated forms and dumped them on my desk asking me to unfrick the frick they fricked themselves into by using this stuff. They end up paying around 3 times what they would have spent had they just hired a qualified lawyer the first time.
Look - - its kinda like surgery. There is no law that says you cannot remove your own appendix. Get a map and a sharp scalpel and go at it - - - but I would not recommended it.
Just hire a professional - - - its important.
Look - - its kinda like surgery. There is no law that says you cannot remove your own appendix. Get a map and a sharp scalpel and go at it - - - but I would not recommended it.
Just hire a professional - - - its important.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:58 am to SaintTiger80
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Also, stipulate how life insurance etc would be distributed.
You can probably accomplish that by designating the beneficiaries on your policy.
I would no sooner use a website for estate planning than I would use one for dental work. Others, however, may prefer to save money and use DentalZoom.com.
With AI, the day will come when a legal site is reliable. We are not there yet by a long shot.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:09 am to SaintTiger80
For a simple Will...Legal Zoom is fine
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:36 pm to TheOcean
quote:
We love when people do their own planning online. It costs 10x+ to fix mistakes on the back end.
50% of all assets to each kid. What mistakes are there to make?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 2:36 pm to SaintTiger80
$4500 is high for a simple will and insurance trust.
Shop around.
Shop around.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:12 pm to SaintTiger80
We used it with my father with no problems
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:26 pm to TheOcean
quote:Ouch! That's a painfully morbid admission.
I do this for a living. We love when people do their own planning online. It costs 10x+ to fix mistakes on the back end.
quote:Yet you "love it"?
And puts your family through a living hell for many months (sometimes years).
Dude!
Really?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:50 pm to SaintTiger80
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Early thirties with kids. Nothing crazy in assets just a house and retirement accounts. Live in Texas.
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Spoke to an attorney and he suggested a will and trust to avoid probate court. He quoted me $4500.
Sweet Jesus go somewhere else
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:26 pm to SaintTiger80
quote:you mean God Parents, you heathen?
want to designate who our kids would go to if we passed.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:31 pm to SaintTiger80
I can't image why anybody would use an online service to prepare arguably the most important document of your life. If you go that route, just keep in mind you get what you pay for.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:56 pm to SaintTiger80
Tell the lawyer you are getting 3 quotes and then get 3 quotes. If they aren't putting their best foot forward for your business, you don't want to waste their or your time.
As far as the "capability" of an online legal assistance, you are fine until you aren't.
If no one contests anything, then everything you draw on your own should stand.
If someone contests, then your planning is fricked. The best lawyer wins. Always. I dont care if you spend $6k.
As for wills, I've been told that the magic words are "whomever contests the will is removed from said will completely and entirely". That makes people more likely to behave and keep a rational mind. But again, whomever has the big lawyer can mess up any plan.
As for the future, im optimistic about AI. I dont know that it is at a safe level today. But it is only a matter of time. I've seen leaps and bounds in my industry in the past 2 years. There are still "misfires". And I don't know how quickly they will resolve. But it is close.
As far as the "capability" of an online legal assistance, you are fine until you aren't.
If no one contests anything, then everything you draw on your own should stand.
If someone contests, then your planning is fricked. The best lawyer wins. Always. I dont care if you spend $6k.
As for wills, I've been told that the magic words are "whomever contests the will is removed from said will completely and entirely". That makes people more likely to behave and keep a rational mind. But again, whomever has the big lawyer can mess up any plan.
As for the future, im optimistic about AI. I dont know that it is at a safe level today. But it is only a matter of time. I've seen leaps and bounds in my industry in the past 2 years. There are still "misfires". And I don't know how quickly they will resolve. But it is close.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:58 pm to TheOcean
Spin off. I practice in a heavy commercial contract/litigation area. I am seeing more and more business executives/owners rely upon AI for contracts and for advice on major legal issues. It is a good starting point but is often wrong, particularly when applied to specific facts. I strongly encourage everyone to have an attorney review your contracts and confirm legal issues through a lawyer.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:04 pm to JerseyJohn
AI teaches people a few blind spots that they may have not noticed. It is a great "2nd" or "3rd" opinion, today.
Ironically, the blind spots that have been presented to me were completely irrelevant (and almost a distraction from real pertinent issues). But I was impressed at the depth of the issues raised even if they weren't relevant to the specific examples.
Ironically, the blind spots that have been presented to me were completely irrelevant (and almost a distraction from real pertinent issues). But I was impressed at the depth of the issues raised even if they weren't relevant to the specific examples.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:42 pm to SaintTiger80
Wills are not usually very expensive, several hundred dollars for most basic Wills.
Most people don't need trusts but they think they do to "avoid probate or successions".
Here's the thing, a trust cost $3-5k upfront, a succession/probate costs about the same, if not less, except you're dead and your estate is paying for it.
Many attorneys push for the trust because thats money/business they are guaranteed now. They rather get that now than do a rather cheap will and hope your family comes back to the do the probate if they are even still practicing.
I should probably push for more trusts from a business prospective but I don't think it's right to push people to something that is totally unnecessary for 80% of people, especially in my area of not super wealthy people.
Most people don't need trusts but they think they do to "avoid probate or successions".
Here's the thing, a trust cost $3-5k upfront, a succession/probate costs about the same, if not less, except you're dead and your estate is paying for it.
Many attorneys push for the trust because thats money/business they are guaranteed now. They rather get that now than do a rather cheap will and hope your family comes back to the do the probate if they are even still practicing.
I should probably push for more trusts from a business prospective but I don't think it's right to push people to something that is totally unnecessary for 80% of people, especially in my area of not super wealthy people.
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