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U know why I dont give a flying flip what liberal musicians have to say?
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:31 pm
People like Bruce Springsteen, John Cougar Mellencamp, Niel Young, etc...
I really dont care what they have to say, because if they actually knew anything, they would never had let Rock and Roll die and be replaced by rap and hip hop.
Just shows they dont know near as much as thier mouths spout off.
These guys let good music die only to be replaced by music teaching kids how to be thugs and not good parents or members of society, and they want to tell me how to vote?
I really dont care what they have to say, because if they actually knew anything, they would never had let Rock and Roll die and be replaced by rap and hip hop.
Just shows they dont know near as much as thier mouths spout off.
These guys let good music die only to be replaced by music teaching kids how to be thugs and not good parents or members of society, and they want to tell me how to vote?
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:34 pm to WWII Collector
I can't sing and I know I can't sing, so I don't sing. I know when to just shut up. They don't
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:35 pm to Beessnax
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I can't sing and I know I can't sing, so I don't sing. I know when to just shut up. They don't
Good point
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:37 pm to WWII Collector
MTV had a lot to do with killing off rock and roll. Billy Corgan talked about this a bit recently.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:38 pm to WWII Collector
Do you care what the ones who share your outlook say?
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:40 pm to WWII Collector
Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:41 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Billy Corgan
Certified moonbat.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:43 pm to Napoleon
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Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional.
He implied the CIA was involved. He might have outright said it.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:43 pm to WWII Collector
Why do you think Bruce Springsteen or John Mellencamp have any control over what music gets played on the airwaves?
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:45 pm to BozemanTiger
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Certified moonbat.
Indeed. But thy don’t negate the fact he’s right about MTV and radio intentionally burying rock songs in favor or rap starting in the late 90s. MTV and radio dictated what was popular with the young generation. And starting in the late 90s thy started outright promotion of rap/hip hop over rock.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:48 pm to WWII Collector
Not sure they had that much to do with hip hop getting more influence over the decades compared to rock. Just how tastes change with every generation. Not sure you can lay the blame on a handful of aging leftist rock artists. Plenty of rock stars are pretty apolitical or conservative (Alice Cooper, Nugent, Gene Simmons, Meat Load) and they couldn't dictate culture.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:53 pm to Napoleon
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Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional
Sure didnt see anybody the clowns step up back then and do anything... but when they got TDS or flag kneeling fever they sure had something to say then.
A vote for Democrats is a vote for rappers everywhere.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:58 pm to Don Quixote
A lot of music is deeply political. A lot of it isn’t. Artists often feel like their popularity gives them a platform to speak on issues that matter to them to a large listening audience. I usually roll my eyes at it regardless of what side of the aisle they’re on, but I won’t object to artists making political music talking about politics. I will clown on idiots who say things like “I liked ____ artists before they got political!” when said artist has literally multiple albums about expressly political topics.
With that said, I will cringe a little when artists, whose work has absolutely nothing to do with politics, starts making political appeals on stage. It all feels so shallow, disingenuous, and performative.
It’s almost as if all of these artists are coerced into performing a humiliation ritual in exchange for continued access to a promotional, radio, and touring infrastructure all controlled by a handful of monopolies.
With that said, I will cringe a little when artists, whose work has absolutely nothing to do with politics, starts making political appeals on stage. It all feels so shallow, disingenuous, and performative.
It’s almost as if all of these artists are coerced into performing a humiliation ritual in exchange for continued access to a promotional, radio, and touring infrastructure all controlled by a handful of monopolies.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:04 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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MTV had a lot to do with killing off rock and roll. Billy Corgan talked about this a bit recently.
Early 90s MTV was peak. Headbangers Balland such. Actual music videos. Nirvana and AIC live and unplugged.
When they started with the drama shows crap they also started gravitating towards pop music and hip hop, and it all just went down the toilet from there. I honestly don't know how they survived through the Jersey Shore and Teen Mom years. That was historically terrible programming, and people just lapped it up.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:22 pm to WWII Collector
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People like Bruce Springsteen, John Cougar Mellencamp, Niel Young, etc...
I really dont care what they have to say, because if they actually knew anything, they would never had let Rock and Roll die and be replaced by rap and hip hop.
Just shows they dont know near as much as thier mouths spout off.
These guys let good music die only to be replaced by music teaching kids how to be thugs and not good parents or members of society, and they want to tell me how to vote?
You're mad because Gen Z doesn't like Neil Young?
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:25 pm to Darth_Vader
The inability to sell albums probably killed rock and roll as much as anything.
A lot of the other things mentioned certainly played a part as well, I'd admit.
A lot of the other things mentioned certainly played a part as well, I'd admit.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:29 pm to WWII Collector
Ronnie Van Zant said it perfectly, " a southern man don't need him around anyhow ", speaking specifically to Neil Young. Extrapolate that same idea to all the Marxist and American hating progressives around today. It's the same principle.
Traditional American values vs these insane Marxist, globalist, and progressive ideologies is the same fight that's been going on between the left and right for decades.
Traditional American values vs these insane Marxist, globalist, and progressive ideologies is the same fight that's been going on between the left and right for decades.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:30 pm to Napoleon
quote:Seems weird to argue it was "intentional". The MTVs of the world don't really drive taste - they respond to it.
Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional.
I will say this though: someone was playing me some examples of rap last night that they found compelling. I was struck by how little has changed in 40 years.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:31 pm to WWII Collector
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John Cougar Mellencamp
I still refer to him as “John Cougar”. He hates that.
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