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U know why I dont give a flying flip what liberal musicians have to say?

Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8883 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:31 pm
People like Bruce Springsteen, John Cougar Mellencamp, Niel Young, etc...

I really dont care what they have to say, because if they actually knew anything, they would never had let Rock and Roll die and be replaced by rap and hip hop.

Just shows they dont know near as much as thier mouths spout off.

These guys let good music die only to be replaced by music teaching kids how to be thugs and not good parents or members of society, and they want to tell me how to vote?
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11020 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:34 pm to
I can't sing and I know I can't sing, so I don't sing. I know when to just shut up. They don't
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8883 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:35 pm to
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I can't sing and I know I can't sing, so I don't sing. I know when to just shut up. They don't


Good point
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
29750 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:37 pm to
MTV had a lot to do with killing off rock and roll. Billy Corgan talked about this a bit recently.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74088 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:38 pm to
Do you care what the ones who share your outlook say?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74057 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:40 pm to
Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4654 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Billy Corgan




Certified moonbat.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74850 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional.


He implied the CIA was involved. He might have outright said it.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6063 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:43 pm to
Why do you think Bruce Springsteen or John Mellencamp have any control over what music gets played on the airwaves?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73076 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:45 pm to
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Certified moonbat.


Indeed. But thy don’t negate the fact he’s right about MTV and radio intentionally burying rock songs in favor or rap starting in the late 90s. MTV and radio dictated what was popular with the young generation. And starting in the late 90s thy started outright promotion of rap/hip hop over rock.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5275 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:48 pm to
Not sure they had that much to do with hip hop getting more influence over the decades compared to rock. Just how tastes change with every generation. Not sure you can lay the blame on a handful of aging leftist rock artists. Plenty of rock stars are pretty apolitical or conservative (Alice Cooper, Nugent, Gene Simmons, Meat Load) and they couldn't dictate culture.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4828 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8883 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:53 pm to
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Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional


Sure didnt see anybody the clowns step up back then and do anything... but when they got TDS or flag kneeling fever they sure had something to say then.

A vote for Democrats is a vote for rappers everywhere.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70057 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:58 pm to
A lot of music is deeply political. A lot of it isn’t. Artists often feel like their popularity gives them a platform to speak on issues that matter to them to a large listening audience. I usually roll my eyes at it regardless of what side of the aisle they’re on, but I won’t object to artists making political music talking about politics. I will clown on idiots who say things like “I liked ____ artists before they got political!” when said artist has literally multiple albums about expressly political topics.

With that said, I will cringe a little when artists, whose work has absolutely nothing to do with politics, starts making political appeals on stage. It all feels so shallow, disingenuous, and performative.

It’s almost as if all of these artists are coerced into performing a humiliation ritual in exchange for continued access to a promotional, radio, and touring infrastructure all controlled by a handful of monopolies.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37351 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:04 pm to
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MTV had a lot to do with killing off rock and roll. Billy Corgan talked about this a bit recently.

Early 90s MTV was peak. Headbangers Balland such. Actual music videos. Nirvana and AIC live and unplugged.

When they started with the drama shows crap they also started gravitating towards pop music and hip hop, and it all just went down the toilet from there. I honestly don't know how they survived through the Jersey Shore and Teen Mom years. That was historically terrible programming, and people just lapped it up.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
2968 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:22 pm to
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People like Bruce Springsteen, John Cougar Mellencamp, Niel Young, etc...

I really dont care what they have to say, because if they actually knew anything, they would never had let Rock and Roll die and be replaced by rap and hip hop.

Just shows they dont know near as much as thier mouths spout off.

These guys let good music die only to be replaced by music teaching kids how to be thugs and not good parents or members of society, and they want to tell me how to vote?




You're mad because Gen Z doesn't like Neil Young?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110519 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:25 pm to
The inability to sell albums probably killed rock and roll as much as anything.

A lot of the other things mentioned certainly played a part as well, I'd admit.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22824 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:29 pm to
Ronnie Van Zant said it perfectly, " a southern man don't need him around anyhow ", speaking specifically to Neil Young. Extrapolate that same idea to all the Marxist and American hating progressives around today. It's the same principle.
Traditional American values vs these insane Marxist, globalist, and progressive ideologies is the same fight that's been going on between the left and right for decades.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39564 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:30 pm to
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Billy Corgan said MTV and major record labels intentionally buried rock and roll in 1997. It was replace by numetal which was a mix of rap and rock and hip hop. Rock songs rarely got play and even big names didn't get videos played coupled with the decline of music videos. He alleged it was intentional.
Seems weird to argue it was "intentional". The MTVs of the world don't really drive taste - they respond to it.

I will say this though: someone was playing me some examples of rap last night that they found compelling. I was struck by how little has changed in 40 years.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:31 pm to
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John Cougar Mellencamp


I still refer to him as “John Cougar”. He hates that.
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