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What in the fresh hell is going on in the labor market?

Posted on 3/6/26 at 9:59 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73753 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 9:59 am
I was legit hopeful today would be a decent reading. Earlier this week we got ISM surveys showing solid expansion. Jobless claims also hovered near record lows. Other readings such as labor productivity, etc were decent to good.

And today I wake up to a -92k print?

I can’t remember the last time employment data was this out of sync with other indicators.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9167 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:27 am to
AI is taking everybody’s jobs. Universal basic income incoming.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134366 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:30 am to
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What in the fresh hell is going on in the labor market?

1) Lots of illegals leaving their jobs.

2) Teachers strike across California

3) 3 sequential massive blizzards across the mid-west, upper East coast and New England.

4) Holiday temp hiring becomes layoffs in January & February

5) AI employment reductions.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25417 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:30 am to
They push information out fast on estimations and feelings, then when actuals arrive they are always off.

Also, market manipulation.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19720 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:36 am to
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Lots of illegals leaving their jobs.


It was telling that some of the loss leaders for jobs were hospitality, warehouses, construction, IT, etc.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11593 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:37 am to
How many low iq Illegals do you know working in IT?

Posted by Kenny Wu
Member since Feb 2014
533 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:42 am to
Tons of corporate layoffs due to mostly outsourcing and some AI. Nothing new, it’s been like this for a couple years now. Terrible job market for white collar workers.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1485 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 6:06 pm to
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How many low iq Illegals do you know working in IT?


I happen to know quite a few H1B fraudsters working in IT.
Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3217 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 6:40 pm to
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1) Lots of illegals leaving their jobs.


Illegals who can’t work on the books who aren’t eligible for unemployment benefits are skewing the job numbers?


Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3217 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 6:48 pm to
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I can’t remember the last time employment data was this out of sync with other indicators.


Are there other indicators of employment levels other than the number of people working and not working?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73753 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 7:25 pm to
I meant that the labor market is consistent with an economy shrinking around 1%
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11593 posts
Posted on 3/6/26 at 8:45 pm to
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I happen to know quite a few H1B fraudsters working in IT.


Those aren’t Illegal Immigrants from places like Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Somalia, Ethiopia, etc where the average iq is around 80ish.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19720 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:26 am to
No but they may be people that were squeezed out over the last cycle. We know H1Bs have been under scrutiny.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3596 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:48 am to
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AI is taking everybody’s jobs. Universal basic income incoming.


Sounds catchy but not accurate. Some of this is in the future, but is currently insignificant.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25838 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:48 am to
AI is starting to make an impact. For many it will be better than outsourcing.

Started in the CGI world at the dawn of its history. Now the young who are studying it or in it fear for their future. They fear that they will be like pit musicians. However, they could become sound engineers. Always opportunities as well as those devastated.

This post was edited on 3/7/26 at 8:53 am
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37928 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:07 am to
The hiring process is so broken

God knows how many people have been out of work for a year + at this point

Getting past the workday ATS shite programs is hard enough. If you’re a straight white male, forget about going any further in the process
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33098 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:45 pm to
You have to know people at this point to get past company HR systems. There are two ways the company HR system can go: 1) they filter out tons of good candidates and it’s a crapshoot of what’s left, or 2) the hiring manager bypasses the HR filtering, but is absolutely inundated with resumes and resorts to interviewing people with connections or that we lucky to be in the first batch of resumes
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
905 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 3:01 pm to
Jobs numbers are never reliable.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4857 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 3:04 pm to
Entry level jobs are being crushed by the specter of AI.

There is a general anticipation, real or imagined, that AI is going to be replacing a ton of entry level white collar jobs soon.

Companies have drastically cut back on hiring entry level type positions they feel may not be around in a few years. Whether or not that reality comes true we will see.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23881 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 4:01 pm to
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You have to know people at this point to get past company HR systems.


Everyone acts like this is such a bad thing. But the reality is hiring someone simply off a resume and a couple conversations, as well as going to work for someone off a listing and a couple conversations where there’s a lot of smoke and mirrors by both sides is really not great either.

Knowing someone to some degree often helps, a lot.

ETA: the people that complain about not knowing someone are usually either new to the area, new to the work force, or….not friendly. None of which, are favorable to an employer
This post was edited on 3/7/26 at 4:03 pm
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