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What should happen to this guy in the country illegally
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:00 am
He was born in NZ and raised in Australia
Came to the US in his late teens, overstayed his visa and was recruited into the Marines during the Gulf War.
Says that he was promised automatic citizenship if honorably discharged and left the Marines thinking he was a citizen.
Lived in Florida, got a drivers license and voted in elections. Voting illegally made things worse for him with the courts.
Then 5 years ago (not sure) went to renew his license and was told he was not a citizen.
Turns out that he didn't enter duty in the Selective Reserve until 2 weeks after hostilities officially ended so didn't qualify for the program that granted citizenship for illegals serving during wartime.
Now he's lost his final federal court battle, has no citizenship anywhere because he lost that in Australia when he enlisted, and will be deported somewhere unless Trump helps him personally. He petitioned Biden but never heard back.
It's not a Trump immigration thing, he would have still probably been in the same boat under Biden.
Tampa News
Came to the US in his late teens, overstayed his visa and was recruited into the Marines during the Gulf War.
Says that he was promised automatic citizenship if honorably discharged and left the Marines thinking he was a citizen.
Lived in Florida, got a drivers license and voted in elections. Voting illegally made things worse for him with the courts.
Then 5 years ago (not sure) went to renew his license and was told he was not a citizen.
Turns out that he didn't enter duty in the Selective Reserve until 2 weeks after hostilities officially ended so didn't qualify for the program that granted citizenship for illegals serving during wartime.
Now he's lost his final federal court battle, has no citizenship anywhere because he lost that in Australia when he enlisted, and will be deported somewhere unless Trump helps him personally. He petitioned Biden but never heard back.
It's not a Trump immigration thing, he would have still probably been in the same boat under Biden.
Tampa News
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:04 am to Diseasefreeforall
He should live in a secluded island in the Caribbean’s or in the Pacific
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:04 am to Diseasefreeforall
If you honorably serve in the US military, you should be a citizen. You're already more patriotic than 90% of the country.
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:04 am to Diseasefreeforall
That's a crazy situation to be in.
I'm in favor of granting him citizenship if he's a good "citizen". He sounds like a decent guy.
I'm in favor of granting him citizenship if he's a good "citizen". He sounds like a decent guy.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:05 am to Diseasefreeforall
Just my opinion, but if you are a non-citizen that serves in our military, once you receive your honorable discharge it should come with citizenship attached to it.
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:07 am to Diseasefreeforall
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and left the Marines thinking he was a citizen.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:07 am to Diseasefreeforall
quote:sounds like he thought wrong and should have done his due diligence.
and left the Marines thinking he was a citizen.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:31 am to Diseasefreeforall
TIL that non-citizens can be recruited into the U.S. Military, which seems insane.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:42 am to Diseasefreeforall
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Says that he was promised automatic citizenship if honorably discharged and left the Marines thinking he was a citizen.
That's not a failure on his part, that's a failure of the US government in not keeping their word, or at least not notifying him of the policy change in time.
Citizenship should be granted and made retroactive to the point of his Honorable Discharge.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:43 am to Diseasefreeforall
Shrink
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:46 am to Diseasefreeforall
I am OK with him becoming a citizen, however his lack effort verifying gives me pause to care about his outcome.
Stupidity is not a defense, citizenship comes with paperwork. It is not very complicated to know if you are a citizen.
I think Trump administration should push this through if no questionable legal happenings in his past.
Stupidity is not a defense, citizenship comes with paperwork. It is not very complicated to know if you are a citizen.
I think Trump administration should push this through if no questionable legal happenings in his past.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:46 am to Diseasefreeforall
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Turns out that he didn't enter duty in the Selective Reserve until 2 weeks after hostilities officially ended so didn't qualify for the program that granted citizenship for illegals serving during wartime.
That sounds completely like someone with authority to can provide an exception for based on circumstances.
So either the current admin is a dick or maybe there is more to this story?
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:46 am to Diseasefreeforall
Give that man his citizenship. He’s earned it. Focus on the criminals.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:47 am to Dicky
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If you honorably serve in the US military, you should be a citizen. You're already more patriotic than 90% of the country.
This 110%.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:48 am to RolltidePA
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Just my opinion, but if you are a non-citizen that serves in our military, once you receive your honorable discharge it should come with citizenship attached to it.
Ok, but what this approach and any other that says "if x/y/z conditions are met, you get to be a citizen" does is keeps an incentive in place for illegals to continue coming here.
There should be ZERO incentive for illegals to come here and they will stop. Also not sure I'd want a bunch of third world non-citizens flooding our military. They need to be told/incentivized to stay in their country and make it less of a shithole. Join their own military.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:49 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Ok, but what this approach and any other that says "if x/y/z conditions are met, you get to be a citizen" does is keeps an incentive in place for illegals to continue coming here.
There should be ZERO incentive for illegals to come here and they will stop. Also not sure I'd want a bunch of third world non-citizens flooding our military. They need to be told/incentivized to stay in their country and make it less of a shithole. Join their own military.
What if they enlist while still living in another country?
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:50 am to Lonnie Utah
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What if they enlist while still living in another country?
I'm not sure I follow how this would work. Please provide a scenario.
ETA: A non-citizen living elsewhere joining our military would be a mercenary.
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:01 am to Chucktown_Badger
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I'm not sure I follow how this would work. Please provide a scenario.
ETA: A non-citizen living elsewhere joining our military would be a mercenary.
Go to the US embassy or military base in their country. Say, "I want to be in the Army, Navy, Air Force Marines." The two parties work up a contract if they can meet the requirements (Physically fit. Of service age 17-42. They can speak English. And can obtain a SSN and a green card). They come to the US for basic training. Complete their service. Become a Citizen.
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 10:06 am
Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:03 am to Diseasefreeforall
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voted in elections.
The exceptions for that preventing legal status are extremely small.
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will be deported somewhere unless Trump helps him personally.
My personal thoughts is that obviously this is someone that should have leniency, but as a broader policy matter why does he get a pass when others don't? Hard to go fully in on the SAVE act and then turn around and assist someone who voted illegally. There's also many other stories of veterans being deported too, I've had some as clients, it's not some never before seen scenario.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:05 am to Diseasefreeforall
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Says that he was promised automatic citizenship if honorably discharged and left the Marines thinking he was a citizen.
I'm a firm believer that if you come and serve for this country you should be given a very direct pathway to citizenship. In peace or war time.
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