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Witnessing cultcha buying guns at a local pawn shop.

Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:16 pm
I am building a battlefield cross for a small memorial ceremony of a soldier that recently passed away in my unit, putting together a M4 clone (and I mean something that really only has to pass cursory inspection) and while getting a few of the last pieces I need there were three gentlemen buying AR pistols and something that looked like a knockoff MAC10. None of them really had a clue what they were buying, no sights on anything and none were interested in any accessory packages the guy at the counter offered. He started handing out the 4473's and the only instruction he reiterated was about straw purchases. He went over that point multiple times to each of them in fact, not sure any of them really understood it anyway, pretty sure those guns are going to wind up in evidence lockers after being used as social media props eventually. It's sad too, one of them kept stating how this was his first gun purchase, and you would hope they would get some basic instruction at some point but that's wishful thinking on my part. Kind of sobering watching firsthand as people make these kinds of purchases informed through whatever social media they engage with and not much else.

One of them got something in .300 Blackout, pretty sure he's going to chamber .223 in it at least once.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:18 pm to
If the dealer suspects it is a straw purchase, he is obligated to not make the sale. The things you mentioned, especially buying multiple guns of which you have no knowledge, is a prime example.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19295 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:26 pm to
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If the dealer suspects it is a straw purchase, he is obligated to not make the sale. The things you mentioned, especially buying multiple guns of which you have no knowledge, is a prime example.


In this area just outside of Memphis, you can pretty much always expect that and never make a sale then. They way I interpreted it, more like the dealer hopes they aren't based on his repeating that instruction to them.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:28 pm to
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It's sad too, one of them kept stating how this was his first gun purchase, and you would hope they would get some basic instruction at some point but that's wishful thinking on my part.


I'm 100% 2A, but my thinking changed after selling guns for 5 years.

There were WAY too many purchases from people who couldn't even load a magazine. I made it a point to run a quick basic operations before I handed the firearm over.

INO, there should be some type of minimal firearm training before purchase.
Something like a driver's license or a hunter's ed card.

(go ahead, bring on the downvotes)
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
34309 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:46 pm to
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There were WAY too many purchases from people who couldn't even load a magazine. I made it a point to run a quick basic operations before I handed the firearm over.

INO, there should be some type of minimal firearm training before purchase.
Something like a driver's license or a hunter's ed card.


1984 I am in Security in metry see two guys buying lever action 30/30s had never hunted in their lives or ever shot a high powered rifle. The dingbat at Security tried to show them how to load and operate the rifle but nah.... him too....


next moring I am going with some neighborhood folks for either sex hunt at PRWMA.... and who is in the parking area next to us but those dummies... I watched which way they went and went the other way. killed a nice 75lb hog....


but yeah I am as 2a as it gets but some people need training before buying a gun or a boat.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 3:48 pm to
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ahead, bring on the downvotes


Nah, I agree.

Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
12403 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 4:23 pm to
Did they bring a 5 gallon bucket of gravel to fire the guns into first? If not, they definitely dint know what they are doing.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74451 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 4:45 pm to
Everyone is a beginner at some point. Not everyone grew up around guns and how to use them. In fact, most people don't. If they want to get into guns, they start completely useless. The 2A still applies to them.

Just because someone is a moron doesn't mean the 1A doesn't apply to their free speech or practice of religion.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19295 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 4:58 pm to
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Everyone is a beginner at some point.


True.

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The 2A still applies to them.


Never stated it didn't.

My observation is more to do with the casual indifference to their own ignorance of what they are buying. Ostensibly, these are adults but may as well have been children picking out Nerf blasters for what was displayed. They were buying ammo (well, one little box of 20rds), probably going to be handling these weapons loaded before the day is out, waving them around for pictures for social media posts.
Posted by LakeviewYakker
NOLA
Member since Aug 2014
427 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:07 pm to
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INO, there should be some type of minimal firearm training before purchase.


I agree as well, though I don't trust our government can adequately and fairly manage that.
It would be politicized and as soon as you had anti-gun politicians in office they'd set the bar way too high or impose some sort of limit to reduce gun ownership.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:09 pm to
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Did they bring a 5 gallon bucket of gravel to fire the guns into first?


I wonder if that dude was EF Hutton's brother
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
81306 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:58 pm to
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I'm 100% 2A, but my thinking changed after selling guns for 5 years.


The 2A fits well with a high trust society.

Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3879 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:20 pm to
Selling guns to that demographic is always risky for gun shop owners. I love and will always defend the 2A, but those people make the up the majority of statistics that the anti-2A clowns use in their arguments for gun control.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted by ultralite
Member since Feb 2013
120 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:26 pm to
Browsing the ammo aisle at Academy is a prime spot for observing this. I watched a girl with 2” fingernails on the phone trying to figure out which pistol she was supposed to buy. The guy working the counter also repeatedly explained straw purchases and refused to sell her the gun. Two minutes later the enraged boyfriend came to the counter, presumably from the parking lot, and started mouthing off about how she had a clean record and she had the right to buy whatever gun she wanted. I decided at that point that the fishing section was probably a more civilized section and moved on. Eventually they were both escorted out the store.
Posted by RentToOwn
Member since Sep 2024
54 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:14 pm to
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There were WAY too many purchases from people who couldn't even load a magazine. I made it a point to run a quick basic operations before I handed the firearm over.


This is what you get with the new age tacticool culture. Guys that run a few thousand rounds through an AR, suddenly become a gun experts, then criticize anyone who doesn’t do things the way that they do.

People need to mind their business
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19295 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:17 pm to
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trying to figure out which pistol she was supposed to buy.


Which is all the more funny as none of them really know. One of the presumably brighter ones in the group I witnessed (presumably because he finished his 4473 faster than the other two) started looking at the handguns in the display cases. Didn't matter if it was a CZ, a Sig, or S&W...all Glocks to him...



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Eventually they were both escorted out the store.


Too bad they weren't escorted right into a jail cell.

This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 9:18 pm
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
6691 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 7:14 am to
That’s the problem with gun laws, one side only wants only wants them enforced on the law abiding citizen. Felon in possession, possession of stolen or obliterated get pled down to misdemeanors and out for time served.
This is how you know the gun grabbers have an ulterior motive.
LC had multiple Mario gras shootings, one pistol was stolen, one obliterated serial number (stolen).
I’m for mandatory minimum 10yr on these since they’re very simple.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61138 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 8:20 am to
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but those people make the up the majority of statistics that the anti-2A clowns use in their arguments for gun control.
in aggregate yes, but each individual action in that demo is ignored.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
3033 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 8:31 am to
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If the dealer suspects it is a straw purchase, he is obligated to not make the sale.
saw this go down at a place recently. Enjoyed watching the exchange hiding behind the powder shelves.

The girlfriend was trying to buy a used $200 9mm for boyfriend b/c he "left his ID at home". Store owner said no way. They said they would go home, get ID, and come back. He said now that I know you're trying to make a straw purchase, I won't sell it to you then either b/c you're on camera in my store and they will trace the serial # back to me on the purchase.

The store owner was respectful and kind, and I was pleasantly surprised the race card wasn't played.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19855 posts
Posted on 2/26/26 at 8:32 am to
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This is what you get with the new age tacticool culture. Guys that run a few thousand rounds through an AR, suddenly become a gun experts, then criticize anyone who doesn’t do things the way that they do.

People need to mind their business


Huh? WTF? No criticizing was taking place. It's called giving 2 chits about your fellow American citizens.

I'd go over the pistol, grab a few dummy rounds, show them how to load, rack the slide, how to line up the sights, and how to hold the pistol without getting slide bitten.

I'd rather do that than wildly hand them a pistol and say "good luck"

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