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This is a good this is a good article on seed oils It has corporate greed, AMA, and ….

Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:05 am
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:05 am
The chosen all in one article. Good news is today’s young adults are aware of these things and are eating healthier.,

1866: Cotton seeds are agricultural waste. After extracting cotton fiber, farmers are left with millions of tons of seeds containing oil that's toxic to humans. Gossypol, a natural pesticide in cotton, makes the oil inedible. The seeds are fed to cattle in small amounts or simply discarded.

1900: Procter & Gamble is making candles and soap. They need cheap fats. Animal fats work but they're expensive. Cotton seed oil is abundant and nearly worthless. If they could somehow make it edible, they'd have unlimited cheap raw material.

The process they develop is brutal. Extract the oil using chemical solvents. Heat to extreme temperatures to neutralise gossypol. Hydrogenate with pressurised hydrogen gas to make it solid at room temperature. Deodorise chemically to remove the rancid smell. Bleach to remove the grey color.

The result: Crisco. Crystallised cottonseed oil. Industrial textile waste transformed through chemical processing into something white and solid that looks like lard. They patent it in 1907, launch commercially in 1911.

Now they have a problem. Nobody wants to eat industrial waste that's been chemically treated. Your grandmother cooks with lard and butter like humans have for thousands of years. Crisco needs to convince her that her traditional fats are deadly and this hydrogenated cotton-seed paste is better.

The marketing campaign is genius. They distribute free cookbooks with recipes specifically designed for Crisco. They sponsor cooking demonstrations. They target Jewish communities advertising Crisco as kosher: neither meat nor dairy. They run magazine adverts suggesting that modern, scientific families use Crisco while backwards rural people use lard.

But the real coup happens in 1948. The American Heart Association has $1,700 in their budget. They're a tiny organisation. Procter & Gamble donates $1.7 million. Suddenly the AHA has funding, influence, and a major corporate sponsor who manufactures vegetable oil.

1961: The AHA issues their first dietary guidelines. Avoid saturated fat from animals. Replace it with vegetable oils. Recommended oils: Crisco, Wesson, and other seed oils. The conflict is blatant. The organization issuing health advice is funded by the company that profits when people follow that advice.

Nobody seems troubled by this. Newspapers report the guidelines as objective science. Doctors repeat them to patients. Government agencies adopt them into policy. Industrial cotton-seed oil, chemically extracted and hydrogenated, becomes "heart-healthy" while butter becomes "artery-clogging poison."

1980s: Researchers discover that trans fats, created by hydrogenation, directly cause heart disease. They raise LDL, lower HDL, promote inflammation, and increase heart attack risk more than any other dietary fat. Crisco, as originally formulated, is catastrophically unhealthy. This takes 70 years to officially acknowledge.

Procter & Gamble's response: Quietly reformulate without admission of error. Remove hydrogenation, keep selling seed oils, never acknowledge that their "heart-healthy" product spent seven decades actively causing the disease it claimed to prevent.

Modern seed oils remain. Soybean, canola, corn, safflower oils everywhere. Same chemical extraction process. Same high-temperature refining. Same oxidation problems. Just without hydrogenation so trans fats stay below regulatory thresholds.

These oils oxidise rapidly when heated. They integrate into cell membranes where they create inflammatory signalling for months or years. They're rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. They've never existed in human diets at current consumption levels.

But they're cheap. Profitable. And the food industry has spent a century convincing everyone they're healthy. The alternative, admitting that industrial textile waste shouldn't have been turned into food, would require acknowledging the last 110 years of dietary advice was fundamentally corrupted from the start.

Your great-grandmother cooked with lard because that's what humans used for millennia. Then Procter & Gamble needed to sell soap alternatives and accidentally created the largest dietary change in human history.

We traded animal fats that built civilisations for factory waste that causes disease.

The soap company won. Your health lost.


Crisco
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:06 am to
They should all be banned.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:08 am to
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This is a good this is a good article on seed oils It has corporate greed, AMA, and ….



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Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:11 am to
Those bastards.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:14 am to

Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:16 am to
The corruption in our world never ceases to amaze me. I’ve always said that our world’s elite would stop at nothing for more money. There is no moral limit to what they would do for five bucks.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:17 am to
The solvent used to extract the seed oils is hexane. It is derived frome crude oil.

Now there is a case to be made that crude oil is organic and comes from decaying matter, but I will pass.

Look for cold pressed oils like
Olive, Coconut, Avocado, Hemp, Flaxseed, Sunflower, Sesame, Walnut, Almond, and Grapeseed oil, and they may say hexane, or solvent free.

Also, my favorite, animal oils..
tallow, lard, butter, ghee.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:25 am to
How do we jump from “cotton seed oil has a toxin unique to cotton seeds,” to “all seed oils are toxic”?

I understand the difference with cold pressing as a preferred process for extraction, but why would all seed oils be tainted by the history regarding cotton seeds?

Just trying to understand how broad the brush is here.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Now there is a case to be made that crude oil is organic and comes from decaying matter


Technically, everything found in nature is natural.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:32 am to
quote:

We traded animal fats that built civilisations for factory waste that causes disease


We also won WW2, established the US as the world's preeminent superpower, put a man on the moon, and created the WNBA after the invention of Crisco. Soooo maybe it wasn't all that bad
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:33 am to
Amen to everything posted. The country lost its way. Lots of blame on the doctors that did not question these tactics when they are the ones supposed to protect our health. Our eyes are open now.

Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2165 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:36 am to
It's the same process used to extract oil from most seeds.

This is rapeseed, from which canola oil is derived...



Canola oil is produced by cleaning, heating, and pressing seeds to extract oil, followed by solvent extraction using hexane to maximize yield. The process involves conditioning, flaking, and cooking seeds, followed by mechanical pressing and, frequently, further extraction. Finally, the oil is refined, bleached, and deodorized.

That's a lot of chemicals to make it cheap and marketable.

They could cold press it, but too costly and not profitable.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:08 am to
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rapeseed
Very unmarketable name which is why it is sold as Canola which stands for Canada oil low acid.
Posted by Portballs
Member since Jun 2025
326 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:15 am to
Wow.
That's a very informative post.
Thanks!
That being said, one of my favorite restaurants just switched to beef tallow for their fried products.
I have to say, the taste of the food is infinitely better....
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:16 am to
I grew up with my mother using Crisco
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:19 am to
Lol can't wait to you let a podcaster tell you about your next boogeyman
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21503 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:28 am to
The Dark Horse podcast with Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying did a couple of episodes about seed oils.

First thing to note is that plants evolved strategies to keep animals from eating them, as well as strategies to make themselves more spreadable/productive.

So not all seeds are the same in toxicity to humans because they employ different survival strategies. Each seed needs to be considered independently, but most of them that require chemical processing to ve edible are not good for you.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:29 am to
I would certainly trust your source.

I mean, it's on the Internets!!1!1
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