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California is Screwed when it comes to Gas Prices - I mean, really screwed
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:48 pm
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"HEY AI, WHY ARE CALIFORNIA GAS PRICES SO HIGH?"
Valero and Chevron aren't exactly "packing their bags for Texas" out of spite—they're fleeing a regulatory hellscape that's made staying profitable impossible. Chevron relocated its HQ to Houston (smart move), and Valero just ate a cool $1.1 billion impairment to shut down its Benicia refinery by April 2026, with Phillips 66 already winding down its LA-area plant by the end of this year. That's roughly 17% of the state's refining capacity vanishing because—shocker—endless emissions rules, stockpiling mandates, and hostile policies finally broke the camel's back.
And how does this "destroy" gas prices? California's genius lawmakers mandated a special "cleaner-burning" boutique blend (CaRFG/CARBOB) that's so unique and woke, no one else in the U.S. bothers producing it regularly. It's more expensive to make, isolates California as a "gasoline island" with no inbound pipelines from the rest of the country, and relies on a shrinking handful of local refineries.
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"California gas is different due to a unique, cleaner-burning fuel blend mandated by the state for lower pollution, stricter environmental rules, higher taxes, and its isolated 'gasoline island' market, which relies on limited local refineries, making it costlier to produce and supply than standard U.S. gasoline."
Valero and Chevron (among others) were major producers of this petroleum. With them bailing, they're already ramping up imports—Those tankers take 30-40 days to cross the Pacific, rack up massive shipping costs, and expose us to every global disruption imaginable.
Result? Tighter supply, wilder volatility, and even higher prices at the pump—because nothing says "environmental progress" like shipping fuel halfway around the world from places with looser standards. Enjoy the ride California - KEEP VOTING BLUE; it's only going to get more expensive.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:51 pm to FLTech
Wring out all the oil in Gavin's hair and you could drop the price of gas by a dollar per gallon.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:52 pm to BoomerandSooner
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Wring out all the oil in Gavin's hair and you could drop the price of gas by a dollar per gallon.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:56 pm to BoomerandSooner
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Wring out all the oil in Gavin's hair and you could drop the price of gas by a dollar per gallon.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:56 pm to FLTech
They had a terrible air pollution, smog, problem and I guess it’s costing them plenty of money to keep it from happening again. Smog used to be a nightly joke on the Johnny Carson show. Pick your poison I guess.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:59 pm to FLTech
Just got finished watching Die Hard, has was 74 cents in 1988 in Los Angeles.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:00 pm to Clark14
Are you saying the smog is from the refineries around LA?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:04 pm to Clark14
Sure, back in the early 70s.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:06 pm to Errerrerrwere
Clark the lib is probably thinking about the pre-catalytic converter days when the muffler on his VW bus use to leave a trail of smog in its wake.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:08 pm to Riverside
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converter days when the muffler on his VW bus use to leave a trail of smog in its wake.
Yeah man they're making great points about the unnecessary high gas prices in the socialist Mecca.
I'm just gonna go in there and talk about the smog problem building up on the 101
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:10 pm to FLTech
Damn German gasoline policy...
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:12 pm to Clark14
Your stupidity is astounding.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:13 pm to Clark14
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They had a terrible air pollution, smog, problem and I guess it’s costing them plenty of money to keep it from happening again. Smog used to be a nightly joke on the Johnny Carson show. Pick your poison I guess.
Those were the days of leaded gasoline and no catalytic converters.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:34 pm to Clark14
Pick YOUR poison, don’t poison the rest of America.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:30 pm to jimmy the leg
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my stupidity is astounding.
Yep
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:31 pm to FLTech
Is this gonna drive up prices all over the nation?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:33 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Are you saying the smog is from the refineries around LA?
wut?
it would be reducing smog by tens of millions of cars using a cleaner burning fuel. how is that difficult to understand? not saying it's the right call but come on guy
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:42 pm to djsdawg
Nope.. only California because the rest of the nation has common sense and don't require the special fuel that California's New Green Deal requires.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:46 pm to beaux duke
Also gas station all across the state are closing or about to close because it cost way over a million dollars to upgrade the tanks. Small stations can't afford that. Now competition amongst stations is going down which will drive prices up.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:54 pm to FLTech
So, do the foreign imported blends have to meet the CARBOB standards or is that only local refiners?
No, If fees are paid (carbon credits)
Who pays fees on imports? CA taxpayers
No, If fees are paid (carbon credits)
Who pays fees on imports? CA taxpayers
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