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CBP Says Americans Have No Fourth Amendment At The Airport

Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59144 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:22 am
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A troubling case at Houston Intercontinental Airport (IAH) highlights how far Customs and Border Protection believes its authority now extends. On July 21, 2025, Wilmer Chavarria, a U.S. citizen returning from Nicaragua, says CBP detained him “for no given reason,” separated him from his spouse, and took him into secondary screening. He was held for about four hours.

During that detention, he says agents repeatedly pressured him to hand over his laptop, phone, and tablet, along with the passwords to access them. When he objected, he says CBP told him he had “no Fourth Amendment rights at the border,” warned that asserting his rights was “suspicious,” and denied requests to contact family or a lawyer. After hours of isolation and pressure, he says he ultimately gave in and turned over the devices and passwords.

View From The Wing covered this case in detail, and I agree with him completely. This is not a close call. What CBP is asserting here is not routine border authority. It is an extraordinary and dangerous expansion of government power that should concern anyone who travels internationally, especially Americans who assume their constitutional rights follow them home.


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Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
841 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:24 am to
This is what they voted for...
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59144 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:26 am to
It's so insane. The blind trust of the government is horrifying.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43929 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:27 am to
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CBP Says Americans Have No Fourth Amendment At The Airport


Don't worry chubbies. Nobody is going to detain you or perform a cavity search on you.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22056 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:27 am to
I'd be interested to see where this one goes actually. CBP's powers are pretty broad when it comes to international travel and re-entry, but there probably needs to be some clarification on what the boundaries are. Being held until you give them access to your personal devices is bullshite.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2593 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:28 am to
This is on Trump's watch.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
12882 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:29 am to




Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17206 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:29 am to
Until processed the are not legally in America
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59144 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:30 am to
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Until processed the are not legally in America



US citizens physically in an airport in the US?

Where are they if not in America?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41318 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:31 am to
Some entertaining discussions going on in that comment section.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22928 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:31 am to
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returning from Nicaragua


The US does not have friendly relations with Nicaragua. Anyone returning from Nicaragua can probably expect enhanced scrutiny.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17206 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:32 am to
Did you not read the legally part? It’s not a question of physical. French embassies are physically in but considered French territory
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21368 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:33 am to
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It's so insane. The blind trust of the government is horrifying.


Did you get the covid jab?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43929 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:33 am to
quote:

It's so insane. The blind trust of the government is horrifying.


Most of us do not trust the government at all. That is why we are fans of smaller government.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59144 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:34 am to
where are these people legally? no man's land?
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17446 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:34 am to
quote:

It's so insane. The blind trust of the government is horrifying.


The covid era Biden admin says hi

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49083 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:35 am to
You probably shouldn't get your Constitutional law views from internet blogs called "Live and Let's Fly".

There is a long line of Supreme Court precedent on this very issue: Almedia-Sanchez, Ramsey, Montoya de Hernandez, and Flores-Montanyo.

The US Government can conduct suspicionless searches and detain individuals for a reasonable amount of time without suspicion or probable cause at US borders or US international airports.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59144 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:35 am to
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Did you get the covid jab?



The one that was developed under Trump? Why? You approve of how he handled that, too? Really, that should have taught us all everything we needed to know about him.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
12636 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:36 am to
We have had NO 4th amendment rights for numerous years. See: The Grand Jury
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59144 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:37 am to
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You probably shouldn't get your Constitutional law views from internet blogs called "Live and Let's Fly".



Is posting this story equivalent to getting "your Constitutional law views" from a travel blog?

What websites am I allowed to source news from? A list would be helpful.

quote:

The US Government can conduct suspicionless searches and detain individuals for a reasonable amount of time without suspicion or probable cause at US borders or US international airports.



And you don't find this concerning?
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