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More AG bailouts on the way

Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:29 pm
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Republican lawmakers are appealing to President Donald Trump for more farm relief and aid for agricultural equipment manufacturers amid his tariff blitz, even as the president has made a $12 billion bailout for farmers hurt by his trade policies.

Farmers have said that Trump’s tariff policies have hit their bottom lines, since they rely on exports to international trade competitors, including China, to stay afloat.

That hit comes on top of several years of low commodity prices and high costs for key inputs like fertilizer, which were already forcing farmers to tighten their belts.

The reduction in demand for new equipment from cash-strapped farmers led to layoffs earlier this year by some of the largest manufacturers, including Deere
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A spokesperson for Trump-ally Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said the senator has appealed to the administration.

“Last week, Senator Grassley raised constituent concerns to the White House, the U.S. Trade Representative and the Departments of Commerce and Agriculture, sharing that equipment manufacturers could use targeted relief from the tariffs and urging the administration to remove tariffs on specific farm machinery parts,” the spokesperson said in a statement to CNBC.

Other Republican senators have spoken up, too.

Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., said in an interview that the equipment issue came up at a Monday roundtable at the White House where Trump laid out his relief plan for farmers injured by his trade policies. He said the president was receptive to pleas for aid to farmers for equipment.

“We talked specifically with the president about it, and he specifically said he wants to look at how he can help make farm equipment more affordable,” Hoeven said.
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Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4714 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:31 pm to
I’m pretty okay with my tax dollars going to help out farmers.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43949 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:31 pm to
We have the best socialism don’t we folks?
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52204 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:35 pm to
We’ve got to produce our own damn food. Even if it is on the back of the taxpayer. Sucks, but that’s the way the world should work. If we can’t feed ourselves, we are fricked.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1484 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:38 pm to
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If we can’t feed ourselves, we are fricked.


We do feed ourselves easily. The excess has to go somewhere and that's export markets.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31003 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:40 pm to
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I’m pretty okay with my tax dollars going to help out farmers.


Except it’s not the traditional farmers you’re thinking of.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40969 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:40 pm to
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If we can’t feed ourselves, we are fricked.

Most Americans could use an extended famine.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12889 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:45 pm to
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Most Americans could use an extended famine.


We are over fed and waste too much.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
695 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:47 pm to
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I’m pretty okay with my tax dollars going to help out farmers.


The money is indirectly going to foreign owned conglomerates that have been buying out farms for years.

Most notably, China.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52204 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:47 pm to
Short sighted.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8412 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 11:06 pm to
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I’m pretty okay with my tax dollars going to help out farmers.


Agreed, we have taken in many times that in tariffs. Keep the USA working.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3388 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:18 am to
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We have the best socialism don’t we folks?
Farmers produce the food that Americans eat. What do inner city teat sucklers produce other than crime?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466237 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:36 am to
You're at the it wasn't REAL socialism stage of grieving
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3388 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:41 am to
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ou're at the it wasn't REAL socialism stage of grieving
No. Just pointing out the facts. You seem to be at the pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, better-than-thou, know-it-all, bitch stage of being a libtard though. What's your address? I'd like to send you a mirror, sock and some lube for Christmas. Then you can go out back and MATE yourself.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 5:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466237 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:33 am to
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. You seem to be at the pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, better-than-thou, know-it-all, bitch stage of being a libtard though


The guy against socialism is the "libtard"?

This will be fun.

Unpack that for me.

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5929 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:42 am to
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We do feed ourselves easily. The excess has to go somewhere and that's export markets.


No we don’t
We have a negative ag trade deficit

We import tons of actual products that we can grow here
We have products where we export half our production while importing almost as much
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1039 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:59 am to
Is that a crop specific thing —like too much soy but not enough coffee? Are we able to incentivize other crops or are the imports things we can't do?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27542 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:21 am to
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Is that a crop specific thing —like too much soy but not enough coffee?


According to my Google AI:

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The U.S. is a major net exporter of bulk crops like corn, soybeans, wheat, and cotton, along with high-value items like tree nuts, beef, dairy, and poultry products, forming the backbone of its agricultural exports, though it imports many fruits/veggies and tropical goods. Key export categories include bulk commodities, consumer-oriented goods (meats, nuts), and intermediate products (soybean meal, ethanol).


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The U.S. is a major net importer of high-value, consumer-oriented crops like tropical fruits (bananas, avocados, mangoes), coffee, cocoa, and certain vegetables (tomatoes, lettuce), plus sweeteners (sugar), vegetable oils, and spices, driven by consumer demand for year-round variety and products not easily grown domestically. Key import areas also include horticultural products, nuts, and some processed foods, despite the U.S. being a large agricultural exporter overall, notes Economic Research Service (ERS).


I would at least ask this. If we’re going to up the taxpayer support of farmers and ranchers to encourage more domestic production, can we at least:

1- Make sure it goes only to American owned farming and ranching operations?

2- Immediately get rid of the damn ethanol in gasoline mandate?

Those two things shouldn’t be too big a request. Just do it. Concerns about midterm elections and shite be damned.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19301 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:32 am to
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I’m pretty okay with my tax dollars going to help out farmers.
I'm okay with it too, but with a caveat...

A congressional investigation into the beef processing industrial segment to see if there is reason to send to the DOJ for Shermin Anti-Trust violations (collusion, price fixing, anti-competitive practices, etc.)

Same thing for the grain millers/wholesalers.

IF there's something there, as many claim, let's find out.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39684 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:43 am to
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I’m pretty okay with my tax dollars going to help out farmers.


I'm ok with the first 12 billion for the actual farmers. China changed their feed regulations and now has a surplus. So I can see the need for that bailout.

Deere and the other equipment manufacturers are no solely reliant on farmers. Their lobby is pushing Grassley. They just want a free handout.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 8:45 am
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