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Is Venezuela the biggest missed economic opportunity on the planet right now?

Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:13 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:13 am
Explain it to me like I graduated from an SEC school and slept through every class that didn’t directly contribute to my finding employment.

Venezuela has the world's largest proven oil reserves, estimated at 303 billion barrels. This accounts for roughly 17% of known global reserves in total and is more than five times the US's known reserves. There is more known reserves there than in Saudi Arabia. Venezuela should be the Kuwait of Central America - a rich, powerful, energy giant and trade hub that drives the regional economy for 100 years.

What about their system of government is so broken that they can’t exploit this? Why have they build their economy around the drug trade while over 90% of their citizens lack resources to pay for basic needs?

Is an absolute monarchy a better system for a developing economy like this with a propensity for corruption and conflict between factions (cartels, socialist radicals, etc.)?
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 10:28 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92212 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:22 am to
If you knew the amount of bribes, payoffs, grifting that went into any deal in VNZ, you'd understand why nothing gets accomplished there.

Everyone from the secretary on up is on the take.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
547 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:24 am to
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What about their system of government is so broken that they can’t exploit this?


They have and they are trying to expand their economy through their vast reserves of oil. This issue or roadblocks to expanding is two fold however:

1. Venezuelian oil is super thick. That makes it difficult to process. One way to process it is to cut it with lighter condensates like naphtha to bring it to market.


2. Monroe Doctrine. The U.S. will cock block as much as possible eastern countries like China from purchasing Venezuelan crude.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21133 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:32 am to
Why do you think the US Navy is stacking up off Venezuelas coast????
We're gonna "help" them seize this opportunity! (no pun intended) lol
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69223 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:37 am to
The quality of their oil sucks. Quantity =\= quality.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26383 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:43 am to
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Why do you think the US Navy is stacking up off Venezuelas coast???? We're gonna "help" them seize this opportunity! (no pun intended) lol


Yep. Gerald Ford Carrier Strike Group is “exercising” off their coast now.

That’s what I am watching now and what triggered this thread. It baffles me that they got themselves in this position.

Ignoring their political instability and possible cultural incompatibility with accountability. A competent government would also be in an awkward position if they were seen as an economic competitor to the US but discouraged from being a closer trade partner with China. I’m sure their media and populace are highly manipulated right now.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21133 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:52 am to
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Yep. Gerald Ford Carrier Strike Group is “exercising” off their coast now.

That’s what I am watching now and what triggered this thread. It baffles me that they got themselves in this position.

Ignoring their political instability and possible cultural incompatibility with accountability. A competent government would also be in an awkward position if they were seen as an economic competitor to the US but discouraged from being a closer trade partner with China. I’m sure their media and populace are highly manipulated right now


Add into the equation that Venezuela allows Islamic terrorists to train on Margarita Island, just off their coast. Along with China, as you mentioned, we can't allow that shite in our own hemisphere.
Personally, I'd rather see our military cleaning up in our half of the world instead of the ME and Ukraine.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
920 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:01 am to
Back in the early 2000s they kicked out US oilfield services firms and seized their assets.

Their plan was to nationalize the industry but quickly found out getting oil out of the ground and on a ship is a lot harder than it looks.

And like most of South America and Africa they don’t do maintenance on what they’ve got and run shite into the ground.

Venezuela was the richest country in SA at one time but 10-years after they installed global Marxist their currency collapsed and people were eating zoo animals.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7150 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:13 am to
The DRC is a strong contender.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67320 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:16 am to

No
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1538 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:17 am to
The brain drain was also real. Houston is full of now mostly retired Venezuelan engineers who fled.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52783 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:18 am to
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Explain it to me like I graduated from an SEC school and slept through every class that didn’t directly contribute to me finding employment.


Google communism
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26383 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:18 am to
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Personally, I'd rather see our military cleaning up in our half of the world instead of the ME and Ukraine.


I agree.

And even with imperfect reserves and transportation infrastructure that is so broken it would be shocking even to Louisiana…..the size and scale of what they have is so vast that Venezuela WILL eventually be the focus of military conflict and outside influence from entities unfriendly to the US.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 9:20 am
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
851 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:20 am to
In addition to Venezuela’s oil being hard to refine their Infrastructure is a complete mess. I’ve seen some studies that say they would require $100 billion, and many years, to bring the oil industry back to normal.

Chavez, and Madero, completely destroyed that country.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13157 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:21 am to
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The brain drain was also real. Houston is full of now mostly retired Venezuelan engineers who fled.

Considering how all the people in Katy with "pray for Venezuela" stickers on their cars tend to vote, I'm not sure how smart they ever were.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
920 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:24 am to
Once Chavez got in power they started seizing businesses. Would kick the owners out and install a political appointee who would run it into the ground.

A lot of ranches were seized. What they would do is send in ‘squatters’ acting under the authority of government and drive the owners out or simply kill the landowners. These ranches quickly were run into the ground and made unprofitable.

At the time this was happening anybody with means to do so cashed out what they could, abandoned the rest and fled to the US and other places.

When their currency collapsed they tried to reboot the currency under a new name ‘bolivar fuerte’ and banned direct exchange for USD which led to a lot of their economy being gray market and transacting in USD.

The value of the new currency was so volatile that websites popped up to display exchange rates with USD.

Then to try and get a handle on homelessness they started assigning random people to live at private residences that had extra room. So this led to extended families moving in together to keep random homeless people from being assigned to the house by the government.

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36991 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:26 am to
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to me finding employment.
Should be "my" finding. Always use the possessive before a gerund. So, I'm guessing LSU??
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148064 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:30 am to
Ukraine and Myanmar

Both very resource rich and ideally situated

Argentina was one of the richest countries in the world a century ago
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
920 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:30 am to
Then the government subsidized gasoline that was sold at gas stations for pennies.

Recall one time was there on a project and had a guy driving us around. Stopped for gas and I handed the dude some cash for the gas and he said don’t worry about it and reached in the cup holder and paid for the full tank with coins.

This government subsidized gas led to huge traffic jams because the cheapest thing for people to do was get in their car and drive around aimlessly.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3323 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:33 am to
Where have you been? They have had communist dictators in power since Hugo Chavez took power in 1999. People wanted everything for free. Within a few short years they were eating out of dumpsters. Communism does not work, has never worked and will never work. Too many people want to ride in the cart while a few pull it.
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