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Abraham Lincoln gave what is perhaps the greatest speech in American history 162 years ago

Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:18 pm
November 19, 1863. Gettysburg, PA.

Minutes after Edward Everett, one of the great orators of the age, sat down after giving his 2+ hour speech dedicating the Gettysburg National Cemetery, President Abraham Lincoln stood up to give his follow-up address. He had been a last-minute invite, asked by the dedication committee to come to Gettysburg to deliver some "appropriate remarks." What followed in the next two minutes are perhaps the most famous words an American president has ever uttered in a political speech:

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Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate-we can not consecrate-we can not hallow-this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us-that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion-that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain-that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom-and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.


While his contemporaries considered the speech to be something of a flop at the time, over the intervening decades the speech gained in both prestige and popularity. To so succinctly summarize and state the reasons for fighting and the stakes involved in the American Civil War required a prose that can hardly be found even in the greatest of speechwriters here in our modern day.


Only confirmed photograph of Lincoln at Gettysburg (November 19, 1863)
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5036 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:20 pm to
Lost his top hat I assume?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69225 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Lost his top hat I assume?



He's probably holding it in his hand. The person he is talking to seems short and thus likely a woman. It was considered poor etiquette in those days to address a woman with a hat on.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:24 pm to
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the greatest speech in American history

Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3684 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:26 pm to
Murdered 600,000 Americans
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5036 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:27 pm to
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It was considered poor etiquette in those days to address a woman with a hat on.


Hmmmmmm..... I'll take my hat off around the wife from now on. Maybe she'll be nicer
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87898 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:30 pm to
then he woke up, a pile of empty whiskey bottles in his bed and Mary told him about the previous day and he mumbled, in a drunken, hungover half shout, "I did what???"
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19028 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Four score and seven years ago


That's the part that made it famous. 99% of Americans have no clue what Lincoln said after those words.

EDIT: It's the same as "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" from FDR. No one remembers the rest.

This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:33 pm to
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It's the same as "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" from Kennedy (stolen from FDR). No one remembers the rest


Kennedy isn't associated with that line - he's much better known for the We Choose The Moon speech and the Berlin Wall speech.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:33 pm to
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Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.


Every time I get my hands on a microphone or am asked to say something into a device for a sound check. The above is what I go with. So much better than "check, check, check, cash..."

As far as greatest speech in American history, Abe is up there but I prefer "Al-Bagdadhi, he died like a dog..."
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69225 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Murdered 600,000 Americans



That maybe so. But say all we've done is show the world that democracy isn't chaos; that there is a great, invisible strength in a people's union. Say we've shown that a people can endure awful sacrifice and yet cohere. Mightn't that save at least the idea of democracy, to aspire to, to eventually become worthy of? At all rates whatever maybe proved by blood and sacrifice must've been proven by now.

- Abraham Lincoln (probably)
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:36 pm to
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dedicated here to the unfinished work


Unfinished work.

Damn... that phrase goes back a lot further than I knew.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69225 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:37 pm to
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It's the same as "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" from Kennedy (stolen from FDR). No one remembers the rest.



Kennedy never uttered those lines. His famous line from the inaugural address is: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87898 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:38 pm to
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"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."


thought it was "ask not who you can screw, for my brother and I are doing it for you"?
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
1471 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:41 pm to
Use of score should come back. Also, why is the banner the only thing ever spangled?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15780 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:01 pm to
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"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."


We should ask everyone on SNAP that.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20112 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:21 pm to
What about it makes it great?



I’ve come to admire this one.

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My fellow Americans, it falls to us to keep faith with them and all the great Americans of our past. Believe me, if there's one impression I carry with me after the privilege of holding for 5 ½ years the office held by Adams and Jefferson and Lincoln, it is this: that the things that unite us -- America's past of which we're so proud, our hopes and aspirations for the future of the world and this much-loved country -- these things far outweigh what little divides us. And so tonight we reaffirm that Jew and gentile, we are one nation under God; that black and white, we are one nation indivisible; that Republican and Democrat, we are all Americans. Tonight, with heart and hand, through whatever trial and travail, we pledge ourselves to each other and to the cause of human freedom, the cause that has given light to this land and hope to the world.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:38 pm to
CSA Tiger in tMud
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34624 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:39 pm to
I prefer him in the Douglas debates where he affirmed what everyone already knew: he was a mere utilitarian racist with national-socialistic tendencies.
Posted by Bread Orgeron
Baw Bakery
Member since Aug 2006
11864 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:40 pm to
Sic semper tyrannis
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