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My top 5 (w/ metrics)
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:29 am
I came up with 5 criteria to score coaching candidates. Each criteria is scored 1-5. I only included realistic candidates. I don't think Lanning, Saban, Meyer, etc. are realistic.
I could have this all wrong, and I'm sure you'll let me know.. I'd like to see your candidates based on this criteria and your scores.
My criteria:
1. Consistent success
2. Coaches physicality
3. Success in big games
4. Recruiting
5. Personality/relationship with fanbase ("fit")
My Results:
Lane Kiffin
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 4
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 5
total - 19
Marcus Freeman
Consistent success - 3
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 5
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 4
total - 19
Mike Shanahan (Indiana OC)
Consistent success - 5
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 4
Recruiting - 2
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 17
John Sumrall
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 3
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 16
Jeff Brohm
Consistent success - 3
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 2
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 15
I could have this all wrong, and I'm sure you'll let me know.. I'd like to see your candidates based on this criteria and your scores.
My criteria:
1. Consistent success
2. Coaches physicality
3. Success in big games
4. Recruiting
5. Personality/relationship with fanbase ("fit")
My Results:
Lane Kiffin
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 4
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 5
total - 19
Marcus Freeman
Consistent success - 3
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 5
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 4
total - 19
Mike Shanahan (Indiana OC)
Consistent success - 5
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 4
Recruiting - 2
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 17
John Sumrall
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 3
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 16
Jeff Brohm
Consistent success - 3
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 2
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 15
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 11:31 am
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:31 am to MilkJug
Mike Gundy
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 4
Recruiting - 4 (won't be a problem at LSU)
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 5
total - 21
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 4
Recruiting - 4 (won't be a problem at LSU)
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 5
total - 21
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:33 am to MilkJug
quote:
Mike Shanahan (Indiana OC)
You can't compare him to the others with metrics because he isn't a HC. Replade him with Dillingham.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:35 am to Chad504boy
quote:
Mike Gundy
Mullet - 5
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:36 am to MilkJug
quote:I'd be happy if Lane got the job but consistent success should be a 3, physicality should be a 2, and recruiting should be a 2
Lane Kiffin
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 4
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 5
total - 19
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:39 am to StrongOffer
Yeah I don’t get the high score with consistent success with Lane. It’s like people ignore much of his career.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:52 am to MilkJug
Saban
1. Consistent success--5
2. Coaches physicality--5
3. Success in big games--5
4. Recruiting--5
5. Personality/relationship with fanbase ("fit")--5
25.... Nuff said
1. Consistent success--5
2. Coaches physicality--5
3. Success in big games--5
4. Recruiting--5
5. Personality/relationship with fanbase ("fit")--5
25.... Nuff said
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:54 am to MilkJug
Now do Frank Wilson.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:57 am to MilkJug
quote:
Jeff Brohm
Consistent success - 3
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 3
Recruiting - 2
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 15
I am not advocating for Brohm, but there is no way you can have him as a 3 on consistent success and success in big games. He punches up all the time.
WKU:
8-5
12-2
10-3
Purdue:(3 years prior to arriving 3-9, 2-10, 3-9)
7-6
6-7 (beat #2 Ohio St.)
4-8
COVID
9-4 (beat #2 Iowa, beat #3 Michigan St.)
8-5 (lost in the B1G title game to #2 Michigan)
Louisville
10-4 (beat #10 Notre Dame, lost to #4 FSU in ACCCG)
9-4 (beat #11 Clemson)
7-2 atm (beat #2 Miami)
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:15 pm to MilkJug
quote:
MilkJug
First, props for your work. Appreciate effort.
A couple of other criteria:
- Can they coach across an entire season? Sort of the counterpart to your big games success but comes with the SEC territory.
- Have they proven trans-generational success? For example, Chizek was successful (natty in Y2 at Auburn) but due largely to one player. Likewise, Sumlin at ATM. Have they shown their success is not due to a single player or collection?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:23 pm to MilkJug
quote:
John Sumrall
quote:
Coaches physicality - 3
Nah, Sumrall is a higher score for that criteria. It's what he preaches.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:23 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
proven trans-gen
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:46 pm to MilkJug
quote:
Mike Shanahan (Indiana OC) Consistent success - 5 Coaches physicality - 3 Success in big games - 4 Recruiting - 2 Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3 total - 17
I dont understand your big game criteria. Kiffin has coached in dozens of big games. shanahan has been in the b10 for two seasons and was at JMU before. Shanahan was coached in front of 80,000+ people twice, Kiffin probably a few dozen times
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:55 pm to MilkJug
Do Drink?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:26 pm to extremelsu
quote:
I dont understand your big game criteria. Kiffin has coached in dozens of big games. shanahan has been in the b10 for two seasons and was at JMU before. Shanahan was coached in front of 80,000+ people twice, Kiffin probably a few dozen times
What I mean by "big game" is "punching above your weight". I don't care about attendance. Yes, Shanahan has a small sample size, but he's been very impressive against teams that have much better or equal talent (Oregon, Penn State, Illinois, Nebraska, Michigan).
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:31 pm to GeauxFish31
quote:
Do Drink?
Eli Drinkwitz
Consistent success - 3
Coaches physicality - 3
Success in big games - 2
Recruiting - 3
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3
total - 14
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:32 pm to clamdip
quote:
proven trans-gen
Are you referencing Mike Gundy?
Is he still A MAN ?
He’s no longer 40
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:33 pm to MilkJug
Now do FCS coaches because after Landry's and LSUs shitshow regarding firing and the payout, Lane ain't coming even in your most positive dream.
Freeman is at Notre Fing Dame. Do you really think Christ, Our Lady and Notre Dame money are going to let Freeman walk away like Kelly?
Sumrall and Shanahan are probably more realistic.
Brohm is in Louisville working for Momma with Papa paying him right now.
Freeman is at Notre Fing Dame. Do you really think Christ, Our Lady and Notre Dame money are going to let Freeman walk away like Kelly?
Sumrall and Shanahan are probably more realistic.
Brohm is in Louisville working for Momma with Papa paying him right now.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:45 pm to MilkJug
quote:
2. Coaches physicality
What does this mean ? Which coach can win 1 v 1 in a steel cage match ?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:48 pm to KiwiHead
quote:
Brohm is in Louisville working . . . with Papa paying him right now.
Rasing Canes >>> Papa John's. Just sayin.
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