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Do European style socialist policies and Sharia law align?

Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16387 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:52 am
Mamdani is an interesting mix of socialism, Muslim beliefs and other things.

On his face, he’s similar in some ways to Obama. Foreign born, no real work history, charismatic, came out of nowhere, etc.

However, he seems to outwardly align with and espouse Muslim practices. That said, he’s also outwardly admitting being a socialist.

Do those two things actually mix well and what viewpoint actually wins out in the end?
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1259 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:54 am to
He's as much a Muslim as he is working class.

Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
16820 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:54 am to
Socialists and Muslims like to get together because they both hate western Christian civilization.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2692 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:29 am to
European style socialism (though not the socialism American leftists think it is) works in small, homogenous, wealthy countries where the average citizen contributes mightily and everyone is pulling in the same direction. Switzerland is the size of Mississippi. If Mississippi were its own sovereign nation full of a homogenous group of people with common western values and work ethic, it's a lot easier to make socialism work. It also helps that another country (i.e., America) would subsidize our socialist healthcare like we Americans currently do. Another thing that helps it to work is you have neighboring homogenous countries who've common, similar western values as you to trade with.

As much as leftists proclaim the wonders of socialism in Nordic countries, they are not socialist by leftist standards. When Bernie Sanders was praising the results of socialism in Denmark during the presidential debates in 2015, Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen replied with, "I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."

When you ship in millions of leeches who don't work or assimilate, the system falls apart, like is happening now.

Small, wealthy Muslim countries can have lots of free stuff, but they too are a homogenous society with authoritarian governments and a populace and region who generally has no problem with rulers using an iron fist: If you don't like the way your Prince does things, too bad. Complain and we'll cut your hands off.

Comparing those small Muslim countries and small, once-homogenous white European western countries the size of Mississippi who are as much (more, even) market economies as they are socialist to America and American cities like New York is comparing apples to oranges, which is what Mamdani and his NPC voters are doing. It cannot work, and it will not work when this is what you see at the voting booth in New York City: Hardly homogenous, hardly pulling in the same direction.

Posted by iamfrankreynolds
Member since Jul 2024
194 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:51 am to
Yes, power at all costs.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:16 am to
Communism and Islamism are both religions.

They might ally temporarily against a common enemy but eventually they will clash.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20139 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:23 am to
I understand what you're saying, but disagree. Neither are religions, rather each is an all encompassing way of life with no room for any other ideology. There is no concept of the secular in Islam, and there is no concept of the non-secular in Communism. Both are toxic, regressive, and their only product is misery, suffering, and death.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109335 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:24 am to
quote:

He's as much a Muslim as he is working class.


Since when did Muslims become so embracing of their apostates?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16387 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:44 pm to
Mandami and his ilk seem like this is an alignment of convenience
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15784 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:00 pm to
Muslims are the foot soldiers for the progressive left. Their only job is to ruin everything western liberal democracies created.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65672 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:02 pm to
Those two groups will partner with anyone to take down a target then they’ll destroy each other.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68677 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:04 pm to
I just hope I'm alive to see the marxists and Islamists duke it out. They are both absolutely certain that they will win. And both groups necessarily have to destroy the other to reach their goal.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1259 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 3:24 pm to
Since politics.
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 3:26 pm
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1259 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 3:28 pm to
True.

BTW when I offered to show my ID at the polling booth, they told me it wasn't necessary.
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