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Boy the back and forth on this is kinda odd...
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:03 pm
I'm firmly in the fire BK camp. IDK if they can or not, but I think they'd find a way.
I don't understand why some on this board attack you for that mindset, saying it's stupid to even suggest we will, saying he's got until at least 2028, asking us to stop even suggesting it, etc. Acting like they have a superior opinion and look down on anyone who even suggests it.
Why does it matter? This is a message board. He may never get fired but it's fun to think about it and for the record I think there's a nonzero chance.
But, in the end, it is pretty fun to argue. I don't really get why you get frowned upon by some for thinking there's a chance they'd make a move, but it doesn't matter.
I don't understand why some on this board attack you for that mindset, saying it's stupid to even suggest we will, saying he's got until at least 2028, asking us to stop even suggesting it, etc. Acting like they have a superior opinion and look down on anyone who even suggests it.
Why does it matter? This is a message board. He may never get fired but it's fun to think about it and for the record I think there's a nonzero chance.
But, in the end, it is pretty fun to argue. I don't really get why you get frowned upon by some for thinking there's a chance they'd make a move, but it doesn't matter.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:06 pm
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:08 pm to lsufan0582
Because we can't afford a buyout of BK, assistant coaches, and field a team in the NIL era.
It would surpass 120 Million.
So why keep talking about it?
It would surpass 120 Million.
So why keep talking about it?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:10 pm to lsufan0582
A lot of people that are definitively saying “LSU can not fire Kelly until X date” I think are going to be pretty surprised of the events of the next few months.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:17 pm to lsufan0582
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I'm firmly in the fire BK camp. IDK if they can or not, but I think they'd find a way.
How many years does he need to “find a way” to run the ball?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:20 pm to Pauvetibete
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It would surpass 120 Million.
The buyout wouldn't be paid all at once. Nevertheless, if LSU did fire him, they would essentially be on the hook to pay for two HCs (BK and the new HC) each year until 2032. Given the market, that means LSU would have to pay in the range of $17M - $20M annually just for the HC position.
Now, obviously, the sides could negotiate a lower buyout in exchange for a lump-sum payment. But it's hard to imagine BK taking anything less than $30M - $35M when he would be owed $50M over the remaining life of the contract. Even if the lump sum happened, that means you'd be looking at something along the lines of ~ $70M owed next year to start over ($30M for BK, $10M for new HC, $5M to buyout current staff; $7M to pay for new staff; $18M for roster)
Is it possible? I guess. Anything is possible. But it doesn't seem very likely. Particularly considering this is shaping up to be a very competitive HC market. There are already 7 P4 jobs open...and it's not even November!
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:23 pm to burreauxsballz
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A lot of people that are definitively saying “LSU can not fire Kelly until X date” I think are going to be pretty surprised of the events of the next few months.
Same here. LSU could raise it if needbe and I think they will but in the middle/after next season unfortunately. It's a cut off your nose to save your face situation. Boot him while the program is somewhat stable so it won't have to be a complete overhaul.
Sloan and the leprechaun should be giving their checks back to the university for the money they're fleecing us for.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:31 pm to idlewatcher
Question: How much will it cost to rebuild the football program 4-5 years from now?
Yes, we have the portal to add players, but is this the consistent way to build a strong program for the future?
Do we fall further behind GA, Bama, OSU, Oregon, A&M , etc while we wait to get rid of Kelly?
Yes, we have the portal to add players, but is this the consistent way to build a strong program for the future?
Do we fall further behind GA, Bama, OSU, Oregon, A&M , etc while we wait to get rid of Kelly?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:32 pm to Pauvetibete
quote:Your math is way off here. Players leaving does not cost LSU or boosters a penny - it's simply a reallocation of funds toward whichever players come in to fill those spots. The roster budget remains what it is regardless of if players leave.
Because we can't afford a buyout of BK, assistant coaches, and field a team in the NIL era.
It would surpass 120 Million.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:34 pm to lsufan0582
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He may never get fired but it's fun to think about it
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:36 pm to lsufan0582
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I'm firmly in the fire BK camp.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:40 pm to SPEEDY
Are there seriously still BK supporters? Dude went on vacation during the bye week and promoted Joe Sloan
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:44 pm to lsufan0582
I’m as done with Kelly as the next guy, but the most reasonable/practical thing to do probably would be to reset the offense (OC, QB, OL) and see how it plays out next year, buy yourself some time to analyze the financials and CFB landscape and make the next move with all your ducks in a row.
I doubt very seriously anyone came up with any master “BK exit plan” coming in to this year, even if just brainstorming. That plan is probably just now being discussed and starting to be put together, and will probably take some time, as there are a lot of moving parts. While I’m ready for a change as a fan, I think we would all prefer a well-thought-out plan as opposed to a wing-it and hope for the best plan in a chaotic coaching carousel.
If you don’t have a well thought out plan in place, which almost certainly we don’t (why would we?), the program is probably best-served to let this season and next season play out while simultaneously getting that plan together. In the next 12 months, Hope for the best, but plan for the worst
I doubt very seriously anyone came up with any master “BK exit plan” coming in to this year, even if just brainstorming. That plan is probably just now being discussed and starting to be put together, and will probably take some time, as there are a lot of moving parts. While I’m ready for a change as a fan, I think we would all prefer a well-thought-out plan as opposed to a wing-it and hope for the best plan in a chaotic coaching carousel.
If you don’t have a well thought out plan in place, which almost certainly we don’t (why would we?), the program is probably best-served to let this season and next season play out while simultaneously getting that plan together. In the next 12 months, Hope for the best, but plan for the worst
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:44 pm to lsufan0582
The only reason Kelly may be around until 2027 is because of his buyout. It's not because of some belief he can right the ship. Everything he has done has been reactive and in many cases predictable to fail. Hiring Sloan to be OC to try and get a recruit when he was in no way qualified was the kiss of death for him. It was not forced on him by admin, he has not been given limited resources to get a top tier OC, he chose that path.
People being pissed is justifiable because he went out of his way beg them for money to buy him a championship roster ($18 Million) and then turns around and refused to do what was needed to win (hire a real OC and possibly OL coach).
He is by all accounts not putting in the same effort as his predecessors either despite everything being provided for him.
Kelly simply doesn't care and you can tell. Why hold onto that and save $15 $20 million now only to have it push your team down for 3 years and make it harder to build back up?
It's a mess and so all that lays on the feet of Woodward who may be the worst AD out there by far.
People being pissed is justifiable because he went out of his way beg them for money to buy him a championship roster ($18 Million) and then turns around and refused to do what was needed to win (hire a real OC and possibly OL coach).
He is by all accounts not putting in the same effort as his predecessors either despite everything being provided for him.
Kelly simply doesn't care and you can tell. Why hold onto that and save $15 $20 million now only to have it push your team down for 3 years and make it harder to build back up?
It's a mess and so all that lays on the feet of Woodward who may be the worst AD out there by far.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:45 pm to JPLSU1981
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I’m as done with Kelly as the next guy, but the most reasonable thing to do would be to reset the offense and see how it plays out next year, buy yourself a little time to analyze the financials and make the next move with all your ducks in a row.
How can you trust Kelly to do this after Sloan?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:46 pm to lsufan0582
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Why does it matter? This is a message board. He may never get fired but it's fun to think about it and for the record I think there's a nonzero chance.
I'm no BK supporter, but why do you care what others on a message board think when you are complaining about them caring what you think?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:47 pm to JPLSU1981
I can get with this, firing BK next year also probably means you fire the new offensive staff, or most of it. Wouldn't those buyouts kinda offset any financial gain from waiting? Ofc you have to factor in how quickly they'd need to act to move this year though.
I do think they end up waiting and it might be correct, I just wish they wouldn't delay the inevitable.
I do think they end up waiting and it might be correct, I just wish they wouldn't delay the inevitable.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:49 pm to BhamTigah
It wasn't even about my posts because I haven't talked much about firing him this year, it was more of a general statement really looking for logic from those who think he's unfireable.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:49 pm to lsufan0582
If some of the swinging dick donors want to pony up the money to do it, let them do it. If they don't, they're going to get more BK.
Hell, I wouldn't mind a Texas Whopper right about now!
Hell, I wouldn't mind a Texas Whopper right about now!
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:19 pm to Pauvetibete
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So why keep talking about it?
Because he is a chicken shite coach who doesn't deserve the head coach position at LSU. Ray Charles could've seen that when he came up with that fake-arse southern accent...
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:24 pm to BigD45
Well you may need to adjust that $$ for a new coach. Cignetti just got $11 mil and he hasn't really done anything except have 2 winning seasons in an easy conference. Word is $15 mil is the number for Kiffen. LSU will either have to pay or go the younger hungry route but that has it's own risks.You may have to stay with Kelly with him getting a new OC and OL coach but even that will be hard if they aren't sure he's even going to be there the next year.
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