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6th Circuit upholds school ban on Lets Go Brandon shirts.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:45 am
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We previously discussed the case of B.A. v. Tri County Area Schools, where two middle schoolers in Michigan were prevented from wearing “Let’s Go Brandon” sweatshirts. However, a divided panel on the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit has ruled that the school district was within its authority to ban the sweatshirts. The decision, in my view, is wrong, and this could prove a viable case for Supreme Court review, assuming that the plaintiffs will not seek an en banc review.
https://jonathanturley.org/2025/10/16/sixth-circuit/
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:08 am to loogaroo
Honestly, keep the political shirts out of schools. We've got enough to deal with
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:09 am to loogaroo
These are the same people who will tell you that they are happy because Charlie Kirk got what he deserved.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:10 am to jmarto1
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Honestly, keep the political shirts out of schools. We've got enough to deal with
funny how these things only seem to apply to conservatives.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:10 am to jmarto1
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Honestly, keep the political shirts out of schools. We've got enough to deal with
Then keep it consistent. No rainbow and tranny shirts either.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:10 am to jmarto1
Sorry, but to do that, we’d have to keep the Constitution out as well. This opinion is clearly wrong and SCOTUS should grant cert.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:12 am to Sam Quint
I wonder if that school also banned “Black Lives Matter” shirts.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:18 am to Sam Quint
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funny how these things only seem to apply to conservatives.
Look at the typical school administration and teachers. You'll get your answers that way
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:19 am to TXBQAG02
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I wonder if that school also banned “Black Lives Matter” shirts.
It wouldn't shock me to find out they have a mural of some sort.
I agree with the assessment it should all be banned from grade schools. That means not only the students, but the staff as well.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:23 am to loogaroo
I'd be fine with that decision as long as its applied to banning clothing with left wing messaging on it too. But we know its probably not and that kids will still be allowed to wear their rainbow flag crap and shirts that say "no one is illegal" or "my body, my choice" and whatnot.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:28 am to Bard
I disagree. I wish for open debate to begin early in life and anyone who stifles it, especially if the use of physical or mental harm is caused, is promptly arrested for the criminal act or sued for damages to plaintiff.
The fed spends 5 cents on Civics education annually per student and 54 dollars per student annually on STEM.
Go Figger!!
The fed spends 5 cents on Civics education annually per student and 54 dollars per student annually on STEM.
Go Figger!!
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:31 am to loogaroo
I think this is a good thing. All this does is bring an unknown story into the spotlight that now the rest of America can see. Liberals are so stupid. 
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:37 am to jmarto1
Schools are filled with people making political points. Teachers teaching liberal talking points, coaches fired for taking a knee, DEI in classrooms with levels of education, boys in girls bathrooms and much more. But a shirt that says let’s go Brandon is banned while a male teacher can hang pride flags ? I believe none of this should be allowed as you try to point out but it is not a reality anymore.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:38 am to jmarto1
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Honestly, keep the political shirts out of schools. We've got enough to deal with
The very clear and obvious problem with that is the willingness of schools to apply that standard differently for different political causes.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:43 am to Tiger Prawn
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I'd be fine with that decision as long as its applied to banning clothing with left wing messaging on it too.
I'm not sure even that would make it legal.
It satisfies the Equal Protection Clause, but it still doesn't seem to get by the 1st Amendment to me.
I think they would have to go so far as to require uniforms in order to get by that one.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:23 am to moneyg
I'm with you on that. You've got mostly liberal/democratic women in schools so of course they are going to do that
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:29 am to loogaroo
There was another thread on this earlier. This is a copy/paste
School speech is regulated more than normal speech. This is the speech the USSC ruled (7-2 so not close) that w school could suspend a student over previously (to set the precedent)
Fraser case
Innuendo is all you need, unfortunately.
I fought this fight in high school 25+ years ago.
School speech is regulated more than normal speech. This is the speech the USSC ruled (7-2 so not close) that w school could suspend a student over previously (to set the precedent)
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I know a man who is firm – he's firm in his pants, he's firm in his shirt, his character is firm – but most . . . of all, his belief in you, the students of Bethel, is firm. Jeff Kuhlman is a man who takes his point and pounds it in. If necessary, he'll take an issue and nail it to the wall. He doesn't attack things in spurts – he drives hard, pushing and pushing until finally – he succeeds. Jeff is a man who will go to the very end – even the climax, for each and every one of you. So vote for Jeff for A. S. B. vice-president – he'll never come between you and the best our high school can be.
Fraser case
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The Supreme Court reversed the Court of Appeals in a 7–2 vote to reinstate the suspension, saying that the school district's policy did not violate the First Amendment.[16] Chief Justice Warren Burger delivered the Court's opinion, in what ended up along with the Gramm–Rudman decision (Bowsher v. Synar) to be the final case of the Burger Court era. Justice William J. Brennan delivered a concurring opinion, while Justice Harry Blackmun concurred in the majority without authoring an opinion. Thurgood Marshall and John Paul Stevens dissented.[16]
Though the Court distinguished its 1969 decision Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, which upheld the right of students to express themselves where their words (or in that case, the wearing of a protest armband) are non-disruptive and could not be seen as connected with the school, Fraser limits the scope of that ruling, by prohibiting certain styles of expression that are sexually vulgar
Innuendo is all you need, unfortunately.
I fought this fight in high school 25+ years ago.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:30 am to ezride25
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These are the same people who will tell you that they are happy because Charlie Kirk got what he deserved.
The precedent establishing this was led by the more socially conservative populations of that USSC.
The liberal wing typically votes for students in these rulings.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:31 am to jmarto1
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Honestly, keep the political shirts out of schools. We've got enough to deal with
quote:That is the real crux of the matter...
These are the same people who will tell you that they are happy because Charlie Kirk got what he deserved.
It isn't the rules but are the rules being evenly applied. All across the board, when you ask that question, you keep getting a resounding 'NO' as the answer.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:32 am to Riverside
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This opinion is clearly wrong
Not under current USSC precedent.
The current version could reverse the precedent, however. It was a 7-2 ruling so that would be somewhat shocking. This wasn't a 5-4 nailbiter.
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