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We Do Realize Russia Openly Wages a “Gray War” Against the West to Isolate Us, Right?

Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2562 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:58 pm
Russia wages (and has been for a while) a “gray war” against the West using hybrid tactics like sabotage, disinformation, and cyber operations to destabilize without open conflict that would trigger Art. 5.

It has tried to deter Western support for Ukraine, exploit democratic vulnerabilities, and shift global power dynamics by:

• Sabotaging infrastructure like undersea cables and arms factories via proxies.

• Spreading disinformation and conducting cyber-attacks, including GPS jamming of NATO aircraft.

• Weaponizing airspace violations to intimidate NATO borders.

Russia seeks to erode NATO’s cohesion and weaken Western resolve from within - if they can rot the alliance, it’s a huge victory for them. Putin has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Let’s see if this new “agreement” to meet to discuss the end of the war is genuine or just another micro-aggression tactic to add to the list.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1978 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:59 pm to
I read that as "gay war" at first
Posted by CaptEasy
Panama City Beach
Member since Feb 2018
583 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:00 pm to
Nobody that I know in real life ever mentions Russia.

Almost like they don’t really give a crap.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92496 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:01 pm to
Just as we do to them and a host of other nations.

This shite always goes on, will always go on, and it will never end...
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11829 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:01 pm to
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It has tried to deter Western support for Ukraine


Explain why this is bad
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14547 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Just as we do to them and a host of other nations.

This shite always goes on, will always go on, and it will never end...


This

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25220 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:03 pm to
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read that as "gay war" at first


That’s the war the west is currently waging against itself.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53512 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:03 pm to
Russia is somewhat beholden to the CCP/China. The unrestricted warfare being waged against the US is coming from the CCP and Russia was 100% pushed into Xi's waiting arms by the incompetent and corrupt Jotato Regime.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
65995 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:03 pm to
The CIA has straight up admitted in NYT articles to having a dozen spy bases on the Russia/Ukraine border and waging a shadow war against Russia for the past decade. Plus, you had the likes of Joe Biden, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain going there constantly and meddling. Imagine if Russia or China did that in Mexico.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8683 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

We Do Realize Russia Openly Wages a “Gray War” Against the West to Isolate Us, Right?


Maybe, but we don't give a schitt. We're bankrupt, and they are a pissant country with fewer people than Bangladesh. Time to take care of us.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3590 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:06 pm to
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if Russia or China did that in Mexico.


I assume they both are doing it. They are probably also doing it in Canada. Sounds naive to think they aren't.

This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
1459 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

We Do Realize Russia Openly Wages a “Gray War” Against the West to Isolate Us, Right?


People that say “right?” when asking questions are douche.
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68683 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:07 pm to
China is a bigger threat notwithstanding NATOs dreams to start a nuclear war with Russia.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55738 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:09 pm to
You anti-Americans are exhausting.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12298 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:10 pm to
So Trump shouldn’t try to stop the killing? Damn you clowns are so riddled with TDS it’s ridiculous
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70961 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:11 pm to
The Grey Zone in relation to Russia/the West has been a "thing" since the Cold War days. China, as it has come to be a world power, has joined in the efforts. It goes both ways, no doubt, but with cyber warfare and the advent of the internet/social media the efforts have become both easier and potentially more damaging.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170201 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:12 pm to
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You anti-Americans are exhausting.

Sounds like he has a problem with Russia. Not surprisingly you're confused as usual.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12298 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:18 pm to
Nah it’s bitches like you and the OP who are so rustled by Trump that you hope he fails at getting a peace agreement
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19821 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:39 pm to
Russia is 99th on my list of concerns outside of our involvement in the neocon war in Ukraine.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9042 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Russia wages (and has been for a while) a “gray war” against the West using hybrid tactics like sabotage, disinformation, and cyber operations to destabilize without open conflict that would trigger Art. 5.

It has tried to deter Western support for Ukraine, exploit democratic vulnerabilities, and shift global power dynamics by:

• Sabotaging infrastructure like undersea cables and arms factories via proxies.

• Spreading disinformation and conducting cyber-attacks, including GPS jamming of NATO aircraft.

• Weaponizing airspace violations to intimidate NATO borders.

Russia seeks to erode NATO’s cohesion and weaken Western resolve from within - if they can rot the alliance, it’s a huge victory for them. Putin has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Let’s see if this new “agreement” to meet to discuss the end of the war is genuine or just another micro-aggression tactic to add to the list.


I think you have it backwards there chief.

Let us know when Russia installs a new regime in Mexico.
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 2:41 pm
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