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What Is A Reasonable Contract Length?
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:12 pm
This is not about firing anyone. Rather, it addresses the speculation that Brian Kelly is on Penn State's wish list. If Kelly were to leave of his own volition, and we were to somehow find the next Nick Saban, how long should his first contract last?
FWIW, I think 10 years is too long. God forbid that we hire the next Jimbo Fisher instead of Nick Saban, but when those things do happen, a school is left deciding the lesser of 2 evils: either pay a shite ton to a bad coach to leave, or keep the coach until such time as his buyout is "affordable," and drive away fan/donor support.
Mine is just one opinion, but I wouldn't go longer than 7 years. That length of time provides stability and commitment to a coach, yet it doesn't potentially bankrupt an Athletics Department if a decision has to be made in say, year 4. And I would hope a reasonable coach might see that position or logic.
Or, am I naive? Is 10 years needed to convince "Nick Jr" to leave a successful job and come to LSU?
So, O wise and all-knowing members of the rant, how many years would you guarantee a new coach? (Not that we're looking; just asking the question . . .)
FWIW, I think 10 years is too long. God forbid that we hire the next Jimbo Fisher instead of Nick Saban, but when those things do happen, a school is left deciding the lesser of 2 evils: either pay a shite ton to a bad coach to leave, or keep the coach until such time as his buyout is "affordable," and drive away fan/donor support.
Mine is just one opinion, but I wouldn't go longer than 7 years. That length of time provides stability and commitment to a coach, yet it doesn't potentially bankrupt an Athletics Department if a decision has to be made in say, year 4. And I would hope a reasonable coach might see that position or logic.
Or, am I naive? Is 10 years needed to convince "Nick Jr" to leave a successful job and come to LSU?
So, O wise and all-knowing members of the rant, how many years would you guarantee a new coach? (Not that we're looking; just asking the question . . .)
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:13 pm to ronniep1
5 years seems reasonable
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:14 pm to ronniep1
5 years is the standard length unless you're woody and hand out lifetime contracts like pez.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:18 pm to ronniep1
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Or, am I naive? Is 10 years needed to convince "Nick Jr" to leave a successful job and come to LSU?
If you are hiring a G5 coach of someone from a lower P4 program, 5 or 6 years may work. If you want an established P4 coach who is in-demand, that probably takes more. Maybe not 10, but more.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:18 pm to The Pirate King
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5 years is the standard length unless you're woody and hand out lifetime contracts like pez.
Who has 5 year contracts?
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:25 pm to ronniep1
2 weeks for a good whore
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:35 pm to fastlane
Now in the age of nil and transfers, there is no need to give a coach a 10-year contract. They can build a team in 1 to 2 years.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:37 pm to ronniep1
3-4 years, no reason for any longer than that. You can get an extension year 2 every 2 years, but no need to tie yourself down in today's disposable society.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:39 pm to wesman21
Why would a coach take your 3-4 year offer when someone else is offering 7 or 8 years?
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why would a coach take your 3-4 year offer when someone else is offering 7 or 8 years?
Depends a lot on the school doing the offering. If you're Nebraska where it's hard to get kids to go play, or if you're a poverty program, or if you have difficult boosters, or politicians mettling in the program -- you need to offer more money and longer contracts to a candidate.
If you're a school where lots of talent has gone through in the last 10 years, if you're a nice weather/geography location, if the candidate has history at your school, if your program has excellent facilities, and commitment to win from the university and the fans - you're an attractive destination for a coach.
5 years sounds right. 6 year contract is typical - that's what Freeman got when CBK left Notre Dame.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:01 am to ronniep1
Brian Kelly is not on their wish list. No one knows their wish list. That list was created by a writer for SI. Everyone of us could come up 8 or 8 names.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:11 am to p226
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5 years sounds right. 6 year contract is typical - that's what Freeman got when CBK left Notre Dame.
Case in point.
Notre Dame had all the leverage and is a blue blood yet still had to give a first time head coach a 6 year deal.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:12 am to ronniep1
5 tops, but 3-4 in today’s era might seem more appropriate.
10 is absurd for anyone that hasn’t won multiple championships. Especially at a place like LSU.
10 is absurd for anyone that hasn’t won multiple championships. Especially at a place like LSU.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 12:13 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:20 am to ronniep1
Now with the NIL money, Coaches will take a hit. Let's see where they are in next five years. There's only so much money to go around
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:49 am to The Pirate King
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years is the standard length
Show your work, here is mine showing how you are wrong, as usual..
Dan Lanning got a six-year deal
Kalen Deboer got an 8-year deal.
Lincoln Riley got a 10 year deal at USC the same year as Kelly worth more money
Mario Bristobal signed a 10 year deal with Miami in 2021
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unless you're woody and hand out lifetime contracts like pez.
Does the phrase handing out something like pez mean it is something you have never done? Or are you being your usual idiot self and wrong yet again?
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:51 am to ronniep1
When I get the job of writing these sorts of contracts, I’ll let you know…
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:11 am to ronniep1
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Mine is just one opinion, but I wouldn't go longer than 7 years.
Thant only works if the other guy doesn't offer 8.
Then what?
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:37 am to ronniep1
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What Is A Reasonable Contract Length?
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 7:39 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:41 am to ronniep1
quote:the next nick saban doesn’t exist. Saban’s “secret” was stashing nfl players 2-3 deep. Thats not possible anymore
we were to somehow find the next Nick Saban
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:45 am to ronniep1
No one will accept those contracts anymore. In order to get someone to sign the contract you have to give them the big buyouts and long contract lengths. Unless you hire someone who is an up and coming coach who is not fully qualified for the position and you have leverage to get them to take the offer. Otherwise in order to get a proven successful Head Coach you have to give them the long contracts and big buyouts.
Might be a moot issue if the Coach goes back to the midwest....
Might be a moot issue if the Coach goes back to the midwest....
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