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What Is A Reasonable Contract Length?

Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:12 pm
Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
605 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:12 pm
This is not about firing anyone. Rather, it addresses the speculation that Brian Kelly is on Penn State's wish list. If Kelly were to leave of his own volition, and we were to somehow find the next Nick Saban, how long should his first contract last?

FWIW, I think 10 years is too long. God forbid that we hire the next Jimbo Fisher instead of Nick Saban, but when those things do happen, a school is left deciding the lesser of 2 evils: either pay a shite ton to a bad coach to leave, or keep the coach until such time as his buyout is "affordable," and drive away fan/donor support.

Mine is just one opinion, but I wouldn't go longer than 7 years. That length of time provides stability and commitment to a coach, yet it doesn't potentially bankrupt an Athletics Department if a decision has to be made in say, year 4. And I would hope a reasonable coach might see that position or logic.

Or, am I naive? Is 10 years needed to convince "Nick Jr" to leave a successful job and come to LSU?

So, O wise and all-knowing members of the rant, how many years would you guarantee a new coach? (Not that we're looking; just asking the question . . .)
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68448 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:13 pm to
5 years seems reasonable
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64132 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:14 pm to
5 years is the standard length unless you're woody and hand out lifetime contracts like pez.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32376 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Or, am I naive? Is 10 years needed to convince "Nick Jr" to leave a successful job and come to LSU?


If you are hiring a G5 coach of someone from a lower P4 program, 5 or 6 years may work. If you want an established P4 coach who is in-demand, that probably takes more. Maybe not 10, but more.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

5 years is the standard length unless you're woody and hand out lifetime contracts like pez.


Who has 5 year contracts?
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:25 pm to
2 weeks for a good whore
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5647 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:35 pm to
Now in the age of nil and transfers, there is no need to give a coach a 10-year contract. They can build a team in 1 to 2 years.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3462 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:37 pm to
3-4 years, no reason for any longer than that. You can get an extension year 2 every 2 years, but no need to tie yourself down in today's disposable society.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:39 pm to
Why would a coach take your 3-4 year offer when someone else is offering 7 or 8 years?
Posted by p226
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
2011 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Why would a coach take your 3-4 year offer when someone else is offering 7 or 8 years?


Depends a lot on the school doing the offering. If you're Nebraska where it's hard to get kids to go play, or if you're a poverty program, or if you have difficult boosters, or politicians mettling in the program -- you need to offer more money and longer contracts to a candidate.

If you're a school where lots of talent has gone through in the last 10 years, if you're a nice weather/geography location, if the candidate has history at your school, if your program has excellent facilities, and commitment to win from the university and the fans - you're an attractive destination for a coach.

5 years sounds right. 6 year contract is typical - that's what Freeman got when CBK left Notre Dame.
Posted by El Jefe de Tu Mama
Over there by that place
Member since Dec 2024
809 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:01 am to
Brian Kelly is not on their wish list. No one knows their wish list. That list was created by a writer for SI. Everyone of us could come up 8 or 8 names.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65577 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:11 am to
quote:

5 years sounds right. 6 year contract is typical - that's what Freeman got when CBK left Notre Dame.


Case in point.

Notre Dame had all the leverage and is a blue blood yet still had to give a first time head coach a 6 year deal.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71449 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:12 am to
5 tops, but 3-4 in today’s era might seem more appropriate.

10 is absurd for anyone that hasn’t won multiple championships. Especially at a place like LSU.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 12:13 am
Posted by tiger109
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:20 am to
Now with the NIL money, Coaches will take a hit. Let's see where they are in next five years. There's only so much money to go around
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41708 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:49 am to
quote:

years is the standard length


Show your work, here is mine showing how you are wrong, as usual..

Dan Lanning got a six-year deal
Kalen Deboer got an 8-year deal.
Lincoln Riley got a 10 year deal at USC the same year as Kelly worth more money
Mario Bristobal signed a 10 year deal with Miami in 2021



quote:

unless you're woody and hand out lifetime contracts like pez.



Does the phrase handing out something like pez mean it is something you have never done? Or are you being your usual idiot self and wrong yet again?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12483 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:51 am to
When I get the job of writing these sorts of contracts, I’ll let you know…
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2451 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Mine is just one opinion, but I wouldn't go longer than 7 years.


Thant only works if the other guy doesn't offer 8.

Then what?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62306 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:37 am to
quote:

What Is A Reasonable Contract Length?


This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 7:39 am
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5513 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:41 am to
quote:

we were to somehow find the next Nick Saban
the next nick saban doesn’t exist. Saban’s “secret” was stashing nfl players 2-3 deep. Thats not possible anymore
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11553 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:45 am to
No one will accept those contracts anymore. In order to get someone to sign the contract you have to give them the big buyouts and long contract lengths. Unless you hire someone who is an up and coming coach who is not fully qualified for the position and you have leverage to get them to take the offer. Otherwise in order to get a proven successful Head Coach you have to give them the long contracts and big buyouts.

Might be a moot issue if the Coach goes back to the midwest....
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