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Nuss currently through 5 games has a better QBR than John Mateer

Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:45 pm
Posted by hsgeoboy
Member since Aug 2017
1113 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:45 pm
I tend to think QBR, while perhaps often a reductive, is a pretty indicator of what QBs are playing. Nuss currently through 5 games has a better QBR than John Mateer (who lead heisman race until his injury) does through 4. Currently ranked at 26th nationally. WAY ahead of other highly touted QBs like Drew Allar, Arch Manning, DJ Lagway, Cade Klubnik, etc. LSU is far from the only team with a QB regression problem and honestly one of the least severe cases of it. If Nuss really is injured, maybe the can step up his game a little bit more. And even if not, with our defense a top 25 QB should win us most games. The sky is not falling, even if I too have been pretty vocal about the disappointment of watching Nuss this year
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65671 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:50 pm to
It’s a fake stat espn invented to promote Tebow in the NFL. Tebow used to get higher QBR grades than Aaron Rodgers.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 11:51 pm
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25219 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:01 am to
To be fair, his completion percentage isn’t bad at all if he has been hurt. The issue is his inability to complete a pass over 8 yards. He is off this year, there is no doubt about that. Let’s hope he gets it together because we know he can sling it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19920 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:28 am to
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The issue is his inability to complete a pass over 8 yards.


Succinct way to put it.

A healthy Nuss has an amazing arm.

Nuss TD Throw to Malik vs UGA '22
Nuss 45 Yd Throw vs UGA '22 SECCG

When he's healthy, he can stretch the field vertically and horizontally and puts a lot of pressure on defenses. Of recent, not so much.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
3152 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:41 am to
Nuss has made very good decision all year, minus like 2 single throws that resulted in absolutely retarded picks. He just cant put enough arm on the ball, hes clearly limited by injury.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:08 am
Posted by Jakesonaplane
Denver
Member since Nov 2010
7175 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:28 am to
What about the throws into triple coverage just last week alone? Those were terrible decisions
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
3380 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:57 am to
Yeah that should tell you all you need to know about the QBR. What do your eyes show you? The offense is hot garbage. QBR is a BS system.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
16966 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:22 am to
Nuss's QBR doesn't make sense to me either. I always thought it tied pretty closely with offensive efficiency with 3rd down success, red zone TD%, and explosive plays responsible for being heavily weighted.

But that doesn't line up this year.
Posted by TigahTX
Member since Apr 2022
2388 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:05 am to
QBR doesn’t mean shite it’s a fake rating. And all of those guys you mentioned are playing horrible this year so being above them doesn’t mean Nuss isn’t also playing horrible.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33693 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:20 am to
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hes clearly limited by injury.



IF whatever injury he has is so significant that it's causing LSU to have one of the worst offenses in college football (currently ranked 108 in total offense; 103 in scoring offense) then why is he continuing to play?

And if resting during a bye week was somehow the magic elixir for healing the injury, then why did he practice/play vs SLU when he could have sat that week to get in better health for the OM game?

Either his injury is not as limiting as some want to believe and the poor performance of the offense is attributable to something else (cough, cough, a bad OC), or LSU's coaching staff is a collection of morons for (a) continuing to play a physically limited player or (b) not taking advantage of an opportunity to get him healthy before a stretch of 7 SEC games.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65671 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:41 am to
I’d say it’s more than just a couple but overall you’re correct.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
27890 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:46 am to
quote:

A healthy Nuss has an amazing arm.


eh

quote:

When he's healthy, he can stretch the field vertically and horizontally and puts a lot of pressure on defenses


eh. You are not "stretching the filed" with a QB that cant/wont run. And he cant/wont run. Just drop back 7 guys and nobody will be open.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41723 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Tebow used to get higher QBR grades than Aaron Rodgers.



Maybe for a single game or two. Rogers had bad games like everyone else. Tebow never had a single season even close to Rogers in the same season. But QBR is suspect because ESPN will not divulge how it is calculated.

Tebow
2010 - 56.0
2011 - 38.6
2012 - 27.6

Rogers
2010 - 69.6
2011 - 83.8
2012 - 71.3
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65671 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:56 am to
The big example which shed light on QBR was game 5 in the 2011 season. Tebow went 4 for 10 for 79 yards passing and a TD with 6 rushes fir 38 yards and another TD and had a higher QBR than Rogers who went 26 for 39 for 296 yards and 2 TDs.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:59 am to
quote:

eh. You are not "stretching the filed" with a QB that cant/wont run. And he cant/wont run. Just drop back 7 guys and nobody will be open.


You can stretch the defense with your arm as a QB. Nuss certainly needs to run more but he needs to be able to throw the ball down the field more importantly.
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
1601 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

his injury is not as limiting as some want to believe and the poor performance of the offense is attributable to something else (cough, cough, a bad OC)


It’s this, and the offensive line.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14886 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:22 pm to
So much for the ratings...

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14886 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:24 pm to
And the idiotic interceptions.

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14886 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:25 pm to
Do you think that BK mismanaged his injury? Maybe he should have sat for SELU.

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25219 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

And the idiotic interceptions.


The interceptions would be understandable if his passing production wouldn’t be so shitty. Through 5 games last year he had 17 touchdowns with 5 interceptions compared to 8 touchdowns and 4 interceptions this year.
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