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JD Vance responds when lawmaker says health insurance for illegals is a lie

Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:45 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:45 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:56 am to
Facts on our side has never made a lot of inroads with low information voters with TDS.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12604 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:56 am to
Do they not realize how easy it is to look this up. I guess they dems really think everyone is as stupid as they are.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:58 am to
Did he forget the debate where they all raised their hands in support of giving illegals health coverage?
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:59 am to
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Do they not realize how easy it is to look this up. I guess they dems really think everyone is as stupid as they are.


Not just stupid, but violently stupid.

The progressive left has won that war and is now getting their foot soldiers to do their bidding when ideas are being debated. There will be no debate, just misinformation.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112282 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:59 am to
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I guess they dems really think everyone is as stupid as they are.


Their voters certainly are.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8016 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:00 am to
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Did he forget the debate where they all raised their hands in support of giving illegals health coverage?


Remember when the GOP rep from SC yelled, "You lie!" when obama said illegals wouldn't get healthcare coverage in obamacare?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13600 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:05 am to
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Remember when the GOP rep from SC yelled, "You lie!" when obama said illegals wouldn't get healthcare coverage in obamacare?


He was right.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:06 am to
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Do they not realize how easy it is to look this up.


It's like they don't do their homework and continue to get rekt.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40957 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:06 am to
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Do they not realize how easy it is to look this up. I guess they dems really think everyone is as stupid as they are.


They are. Willfully. I have been telling them to simply search New York 65 undocumented healthcare. They won't even confirm it. They bury their head in the sand and scream it is a lie.

Elon posted a 2020 presidential primary debate where ALL candidates said they would offer healthcare to illegals.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47906 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:07 am to
None are so blind as those who will not see.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8825 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:10 am to
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It's like they don't do their homework


No need to do homework when you own the mainstream media. Half of the population still believes that those shots vaccinated them against Covid, even AFTER they got the shots, and then got Covid.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:11 am to
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Facts on our side has never made a lot of inroads with low information voters with TDS.



You can't be nuanced. You can't explain. You just have to demonstrate in as few words as possible to reach republicans and independents.

And even that approach doesn't work with Democrats.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20658 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:12 am to
I just ask, if an "undocumented" person walks into the ER for treatment, the ER is required to treat them, eventually. If they are uninsured, what happens to that bill? Do you think hospitals are in the business of handing out free treatment, or do those costs end up making its way to the taxpayer?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20171 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:19 am to
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Do they not realize how easy it is to look this up. I guess they dems really think everyone is as stupid as they are.

Their assumption is that most voters get their information from their controlled media outlets.

As long as that was true the facts didn't matter because they could be hidden.

Now its direct to consumer via social media and that's why we have a divided population.
-1/3 of the country gets their own information via social media and are red pilled.
-1/3 of the nation still consumes msm and thinks that 1/3 is crazy as a result
-1/3 of the nation doesn't care and is basically checked on on insta/tiktok etc

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17065 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:27 am to
You mentioned how easy it is to look up, that’s a layer of work that democrats are exploiting knowing their constituents aren’t taking the time to do
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12013 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:59 am to
White House Releases New Memo Exposing Democrats’ Demand for Nearly $200 BILLION in Taxpayer-Funded Healthcare for Illegal Immigrants — All While Gutting Reforms That Protect American Citizens



According to the memo, the Democrat proposal would:

Spend $193 billion over 10 years on healthcare for illegal immigrants.
Repeal safeguards against fraud, improper payments, and abuse of federal programs.

Cancel Trump’s $50 billion rural healthcare investment.

Eliminate expanded Health Savings Accounts for 10 million Americans.

Gut work requirements for able-bodied adults, reviving failed welfare policies

The memo breaks down just how much repealing Trump’s reforms would cost taxpayers:

$91.4B – Restoring Obamacare funding for non-citizens
$34.6B – Reopening California’s Medicaid scam
$28.2B – Emergency care reimbursements for illegals
$27.3B – Obamacare “special rule” subsidies for non-citizens
$6.2B – Medicaid for non-citizens
$5.1B – Medicare for non-citizens
TOTAL: $192.8 BILLION

*The memo is at the bottom of the article that I linked…
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7438 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:04 am to
They know the people they want to hear it dont give a shite.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11460 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:05 am to
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Do they not realize how easy it is to look this up. I guess they dems really think everyone is as stupid as they are.


Their voting block is just as dumb as the politicians. So it works.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71408 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:25 am to
Why did Vance use a state funded program to try to make this point?
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 11:26 am
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