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Interesting Insight on LSU O and OC situation on McShay Show

Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by LSUDarkKnight2
Seattle
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:30 am
Paraphrasing but they essentially blame the OC as the main culprit for LSU’s offensive woes.

The interesting comment is when they allude that in coaching circles, a lot of people were surprised there wasn’t a change going into the season.

Here’s the Spotify link

I’m typically a pretty positive spin fan but struggling to find silver linings after Saturday.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 11:32 am
Posted by Batiger53
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:31 am to
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Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:33 am to
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essentially blame the OC as the main culprit for LSU’s offensive woes.


Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:36 am to
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I’m typically a pretty positive spin fan but struggling to find silver linings after Saturday.
I'm in this boat, too. I'm a sunshine pumper through and through, but only thing I can hope for at this point is that Nuss gets healthy in the bye, some necessary offensive adjustments get made, and Caden Durham returns to help get the running game going. Other than that, I don't know where this offense goes. Seems like the wrong people are in charge.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:46 am to
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The interesting comment is when they allude that in coaching circles, a lot of people were surprised there wasn’t a change going into the season.



Well no shite. LSU can make a run at most OCs in CFB, and instead they gave Joe Sloan, a guy who has never once called plays, much less coached at a P5 school....

Let's look at his resume:

2010–2011 South Florida (QC)
2012 South Florida (GA)
2013 Louisiana Tech (WR)
2014 Louisiana Tech (WR/RC)
2015–2018 Louisiana Tech (AHC/WR/RC)
2019 Louisiana Tech (co-OC/QB)
2020–2021 Louisiana Tech (OC/QB)
2022–2023 LSU (QB)
2024–present LSU (OC/QB)

ND took back Denbrock
FSU hired Malzahn
Ohio State brough in Kelly

Hell, Arkansas took back Petrino.

All of those guys have experience, and proven track records. We have Joe.
Posted by bstew3006
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12980 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:47 am to
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I'm in this boat, too. I'm a sunshine pumper through and through, but only thing I can hope for at this point is that Nuss gets healthy in the bye, some necessary offensive adjustments get made, and Caden Durham returns to help get the running game going. Other than that, I don't know where this offense goes. Seems like the wrong people are in charge.


A bye week for rest isn’t gonna fix whatever injury he has, he can’t make a 30-40yd throw with zip. There were 2 opportunities Saturday, 1 to Thomas and 1 to Hilton that would have been easy TDs last year. Both throws were 10 yards under throw. To me, it’s a bigger issue than they have eluded. Meaning, they thought, including Nuss, they could nickle and dime teams to score 24-30points with out taking big shots down field bc the defense would keep teams in check. Problem is, removing SE game, offense is struggling to get to 18pts.

Best move is to announce whatever tear, pinched nerve etc, and say he is going to rehab the next 3-4 weeks or year and get ready for the draft. It’s obvious he’s a shell of himself. If he keeps going out there like this, his 1st round draft stock is tanking to 6th.


The OC is also god awful. After 5 games no one has a clue what he’s trying to establish or the strength of the team. Usually you can understand play calls or scheme to set up the next play or exposing Defenses weakness. Seems like a 10yr old playing madden just calling random plays.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:49 am to
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I’m typically a pretty positive spin fan but struggling to find silver linings after Saturday.

I can typically find a silver lining but at this point the woe's on offense can't be defended!
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:52 am to
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Paraphrasing but they essentially blame the OC as the main culprit for LSU’s offensive woes.

The interesting comment is when they allude that in coaching circles, a lot of people were surprised there wasn’t a change going into the season.


Sloan needs to call better plays at times but there was so much BS that happened in the game that I'm going to distribute blame equitably

We need to fix this OL, they're talented for sure but a front 5-6 should not be getting pushed around by a 3-man-front, that's embarrassing

Nuss needs to ACTUALLY get healthy, hopefully 2 weeks off ensures that

We need to commit to running the ball and that ties to opening running lanes between tackles, we can't open lanes, we're cooked

We can't rely completely on our defense to get us to the CFP

We should've hired a real offensive coordinator, promoting Sloan was a reach, he was only the OC at Tech and wasn't even that great. More a QB guru and should remain as such at a place like LSU.
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1476 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:57 am to
Perhaps Sloan was the key to getting Baker to leave MO…..? Also, it’s not like LSU didn’t have big offensive numbers last year…experienced talent doesn’t hurt.

I mean, did Blake Bakers play calling improve from last season, or did the talent improve??
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10702 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:58 am to
If we see 3 man rushes for a few series, we have to be able to say "lets run on 3rd and medium. Also, I want to say I heard someone say that we had 2 RB carries with actual RBs in teh first half? Thats retarded.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10702 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:02 pm to
We need to change out Sloan and Davis.

I think we've seen enough of Brad Davis. He's had 4 years and he needed JD to make the run game not suck.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287813 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:02 pm to
Why didn’t McShay say this when he was pimping Nussmeier as 1.1?
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
258 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:03 pm to
For every negative comment about Joe Sloan, there needs to be an equal amount of reflection and acknowledgement of the pitiful job Brad Davis has done for multiple seasons. It isn't just a Sloan issue although he has to go as well.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15014 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:05 pm to
Offense has been dead in the water all season. I have seen no substantive changes in the approach from the opener until now. Nuss is arguable worse this year than last which makes no sense. I have little faith that BK will bring forth any practical improvements...at all.

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Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
2085 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:06 pm to
Our RB room is depleted. We should have had at least two more bodies (Holly and Lindsey), but that didn't work out. But that's not an excuse for our offense this year. 23 points versus La Tech ,13 points versus Florida, and 19 versus Ole Miss is fricking unacceptable with the roster we have this year.

I don't understand Kelly's thinking.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15014 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:07 pm to
But...but Kelly is a super sharp Yankee. Right?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10702 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Our RB room is depleted.


If you run 2 RBs in teh first half, you're not trying. Damn "depleted".

Running 39% vs a bad run Defense isn't the way to win football games. Sloan doesn't read defenses during games. We are inept at seeing what they defense is doing and attacking.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7488 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:10 pm to
Please inform us how you can say the OLine is talented? What have they done to give an inkling that they have any talent at all to play at this level of football. Anything? Size, yeah they are big, slow and weak. Speed, athleticism...very little. Smart, wow I haven't seen anything that would indicate that at all. Lazy....absolutely...they seem to always seek out the easiest person to block, even if they aren't even remotely in the play. Tough? I haven't seen it. I have seen nothing but an oline across the board be dominated by every team on our schedule...even SE most of the time. There is no talent on this Oline period.
Posted by savecf101
Member since Dec 2024
66 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:14 pm to
There is lots of blame to go around, including Nuss. I watched a lot of plays from Saturday. His reads and decision were awful. The failed two point play was a RPO and should have been thrown to the right side, not handed off 7 yards deep in the backfield. The crossing routes under the dropped back defenders was there all day. Nuss repeatedly threw to deeper covered receivers. And of course the opportunities to run when there are only three men rushing and ten yards of field to the next defensive player.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7550 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Usually you can understand play calls or scheme to set up the next play or exposing Defenses weakness.


This is what's so frustrating. Watching his calls you can't tell what he thinks are OUR strengths or THEIR weaknesses.

For Ole Miss, wouldn't you have said: "Find Sage Ryan...throw at him"?
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