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Another article about “the Boy Crisis” that gives a different perspective

Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:22 am
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"My Better Half": The Impact of Men’s Dependence on Their Partners

Two closely related terms have been recently added to colloquial vocabulary. Mankeeping refers to the work many women carry out to meet the emotional needs of their male partner. The term was coined by a researcher on male friendships who observed that women are often the central source of empathy, understanding, and intimacy in a man’s life. Because so many women experienced this burden themselves, they have welcomed the term as a means of identifying a cluster of daily, previously unrecognized interpersonal tasks.

Emotional gold digger, a term coined a few years before mankeeping, identifies the behavior of a male partner who constantly draws on the emotional life of a female partner. She soothes anxieties, strokes his ego, and empathizes with the ups and downs of workplace tensions. He may show gratitude and appreciation (‘I don’t know what I’d do without you,’ or, ‘You are my better half’) but does not reciprocate with comparable emotional gifts. Emotional gold digging, and the consequent burden on female partners of mankeeping, arise in a context in which many men may have no one else to turn to. Day by day, issue by issue, their problems do not seem to warrant therapy; they are simply the stuff of life. Besides, therapy is costly and risky (‘Will they really understand/be on my side/stir confusion more than comfort?’) and some men may associate therapy with weakness.

The Absence of Friendships Fuels Dependence


Friendships supply emotional support for many women, but a meager 20% of men say they reach out to friends when they want to mull over a personal issue. [1] Many commentators argue that men never learned about the blessings of emotional intimacy in friendship, but a more poignant and complex story emerges from the research of psychologist Niobe Way, who tracked boys’ friendships from mid-childhood through the teen years.[2] She observed very close and intimate friendships among boys in childhood and early adolescence, friendships in which needs were acknowledged and highly personal problems explored. However, these fell by the wayside in late adolescence as manly norms were more strictly enforced. Need for others became associated with weakness, and warm attachments to male friends raised questions about their masculinity.

This social pressure to limit the scope of male friendships ushers in what Way identified as ‘a crisis of confidence.’ As their friendship circle shrank and intimacy with friends drew suspicion, their skill for intimate discussion atrophied. A female partner, however, could offer their troubles a gentle home, prompting them to open up to their ‘better half’ who then has power to shape whatever interpersonal map suits her. Women might test their responses against a friend’s perspective (‘Am I right to be angry,’ and, ‘Should I say anything?’ and, ‘What can I do to make this better?’), but men are less likely to test and fine-tune their views outside conversations with their partner.


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Men and boys aren’t maintaining close friendships because societal norms of masculinity discourage them.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9189 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:27 am to
Probably doesn’t help that women are trained to hate masculinity and are guided to sleep around until they’re thirty, oh yeah, and get they’re career going first.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:30 am to
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Men and boys aren’t maintaining close friendships because societal norms of masculinity discourage them.


You’re right. Societal norms have demonized all male ventures like fraternities, Boy Scouts, golf courses, the military and the list goes on.

Once again, feminism is the root cause.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40376 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:31 am to
Didn’t read, downvoted.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62138 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:32 am to
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Men and boys aren’t maintaining close friendships because societal norms of masculinity discourage them.


It's like you recognize the problem, and misunderstand it at the exact same time.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
82855 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:32 am to
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Didn’t read, downvoted.

read this, upvoted.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58481 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:32 am to
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Probably doesn’t help that women are trained to hate masculinity and are guided to sleep around until they’re thirty, oh yeah, and get they’re career going first.
. Who is guiding and training women to do these things?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464038 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:32 am to
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"My Better Half": The Impact of Men’s Dependence on Their Partners


Partners? We're talking about the male crisis and presupposing a partner?

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A female partner, however, could offer their troubles a gentle home, prompting them to open up to their ‘better half’ who then has power to shape whatever interpersonal map suits her. Women might test their responses against a friend’s perspective (‘Am I right to be angry,’ and, ‘Should I say anything?’ and, ‘What can I do to make this better?’), but men are less likely to test and fine-tune their views outside conversations with their partner.


So what do you think would happen for a generation of men where 30% or more of them have no hope for a partner?

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The Absence of Friendships Fuels Dependence


You need to read up on the nihilism crisis which is being spearheaded by these males who were left aside.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8403 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:33 am to
This psychologist has discovered that men and women are different. In another breakthrough, she seems to know the definition of "woman". We may be getting somewhere.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6159 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:33 am to
Social media is brain rot central. Too many young people look to "influencers" for guidance.

As someone else said, "What gets celebrated, gets emulated."
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92566 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:34 am to
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Didn’t read, downvoted.

read this, upvoted.


+1
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58481 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:34 am to
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It's like you recognize the problem, and misunderstand it at the exact same time.


That’s what I took away from the article, as in, that’s what I understood the claim made by the article to be.

I suspect technology plays a bigger role in fracturing friendships than societal norms, though.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62138 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:34 am to
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Who is guiding and training women to do these things?


Other women.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19865 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:34 am to
Are you F’ing serious with this? What kind of feminist rage bait do you follow?

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Mankeeping refers to the work many women carry out to meet the emotional needs of their male partner.

Men drain women by requiring emotional support? What kind of gaslighting BS is this? Women are infinitely more emotionally needy than men. I’ve never met a man who wasn’t gay where this wasn’t the case.

The entire premise of your garbage article is invalidated before it even gets started.
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women are often the central source of… intimacy in a man’s life.

A man seeking intimacy outside of a monogamous relationship would be cheating or ignoring the core elements of masculinity that define a male. She’s imposing her vaguely feminine worldview on men who are wired differently.

What the F is this propaganda piece on about.
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She soothes anxieties, strokes his ego, and empathizes with the ups and downs of workplace tensions.

Women require soothing for things men deal with as a matter of course. This is garbage.
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but a meager 20% of men say they reach out to friends when they want to mull over a personal issue. [1] Many commentators argue that men never learned about the blessings of emotional intimacy

Men don’t socialize the same way as women, we are biologically wired not to for defense and other survival reasons but because the author probably can’t even define what a woman is she wouldn’t want to address any of that.

As a public service please stop posting garbage like this.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 8:39 am
Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
Member since Jul 2018
1881 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:34 am to
If it wasn’t for the vagina, men would have nothing to do with women and their drama. Of course men who are married are going to put a huge burden on their woman when it comes to intimacy and emotional stuff. You know why? Because the women in their life try to isolate and control their men by dictating what they can do and who they can spend time with.

Women today are all about their feelings and how the men in their life must validate them. They complain and control. They want all the “quality time” they can get. So, men are usually left isolated from friends and must deal with all the women in their life and all the “drama” women cause between other women.

Did you ever notice that most of the drama and crazy crap in life are created by the females of the family and friends? “Well, we can’t be friends with those people anymore because Sally is a bitch and she said something mean. Sorry, that Sally is married to your best-friend. Too bad. Gotta have my back in all this crazy stuff and support my feelings!”
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19865 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:36 am to
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Who is guiding and training women to do these things?

Other unhappy women on SSRIs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:36 am to
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Emotional gold digger, a term coined a few years before mankeeping, identifies the behavior of a male partner who constantly draws on the emotional life of a female partner. She soothes anxieties, strokes his ego, and empathizes with the ups and downs of workplace tensions


Feminist fiction

Men dont thrive on affirmation like women do. Men thrive on objective meaning. Women dont seem to understand this, and try to treat men like other women.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 8:38 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32202 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:37 am to
What a heaping pile of feminist BS. Of course you would bring this here. Never change
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:38 am to
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Feminist fiction


Being a feminist requires a very low EQ. Which ironically is term probably coined by a feminist.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:38 am to
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What a heaping pile of feminist BS


the lack of self awareness in that fluff piece was amazing.
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